This week in Don’t Talk to Celebrities About Things Ever: Lana Del Rey edition

Were you guys all wondering what Lana Del Rey thought about feminism? ME TOO I KNOW. I know.

Well you can all go back to bed now because the space queen hath spoken. In an interview with Fader magazine she says:

For me, the issue of feminism is just not an interesting concept.

Whenever people bring up feminism, I’m like, god. I’m just not really that interested.

I’m more interested in, you know, SpaceX and Tesla, what’s going to happen with our intergalactic possibilities.

This is actually my favorite game though. Let’s play.

“Whenever people bring up muffins, I’m like, god, I’m not really that interested. I’m more interested in, you know, pigmy goats.”

“Whenever people bring up drones, I’m like, god, I’m not really that interested. I’m more interested in, you know, the radical possibilities of juicing.”

“Whenever people bring up lunch, I’m like, god, I’m not interested. I’m more interested in, you know, Nazis.”

“Whenever people bring up dinosaurs, I’m like, god, I’m not really that interested. I’m more interested in, you know, internet.”

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND ALSO WHO CARES.

You could literally say that about anything. Also, you aren’t interested in feminism because you don’t know what it is. Why don’t you just say that? If someone asked me what I thought about SpaceX, I wouldn’t say, “Oh god, who cares.” I would obviously stall them while I googled “SpaceX.”

The interviewer went on to ask Del Rey on how she would define the term “feminism.”

She answered: “My idea of a true feminist is a woman who feels free enough to do whatever she wants.”

Gosh that’s weird. Because to me “a woman who feels free enough to do whatever she wants” sounds “very wealthy,” not “feminist.”

The trouble with celebrities is that sometimes they talk.

Anyway, I’m bored of this now. Who wants to hear about my nail art?

Meghan Murphy

Meghan Murphy

Meghan Murphy, founder and editor of Feminist Current, is a freelance writer and journalist. She completed a Masters degree in the department of Gender, Sexuality and Women’s Studies at Simon Fraser University in 2012 and lives in Vancouver, B.C. with her dog. Follow her @meghanemurphy

  • Stella

    Thanks for posting this. When I saw Del Rey’s comment today, I immediately thought of your post about asking celebrities about feminism. I’m so glad your blog exists!

    By the way, you might think about not using the term ‘you guys’. It erases women. Here’s an article that talks about the problems with that phrase: http://www.alternet.org/story/48856/why_sexist_language_matters

    • http://nanasgotablog.com Rebel Nana

      Thank you for providing this link – I try ever so hard not to say “you guys”. Breaking pervasive language habits is so difficult – the key is to not allow them to filter in when we are working with and setting examples for children.

  • lizor

    You just put a big smile on my face, Meghan. Another game might be “How to Discuss the Toxicity of Pop Culture Without Learning Too Much Useless Shit About Rich Morons”.

    Today I’ve learned that a person named Lana Del Ray – a name I have thus far escaped – is an idiot. If this person is a celebrity, then this blog post has made my resolve not to fill my brain with any knowledge of these peeps, to whatever degree is possible, even stronger.

  • mauritia

    Well, I’m rather that she admit she isn’t interested in feminism than come up with a bunch of nonsense under pressure like a lot of celebrities do!

  • ozzie

    Thank you so much for your always on-point and always hilarious take on things Meghan! Whenever someone asks some dumb, boring celebrity their opinion on feminism I’m always reminded of that amazing Dave Chappelle stand-up bit on Ja Rule’s opinion on 9/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-ddYhXAZc for anyone who hasn’t seen it–it’s really funny and really relevant).
    What I came here to say is that I’m absolutely not surprised because every time she opens her mouth it’s a constant stream of nonsensical garbage: she’s referred to herself as ”the ghetto Nancy Sinatra”, ”Lolita lost in the hood”, and ”trailer park darling” made worse by the fact that she’s from a very wealthy family. In her videos for ”Tropico”, there’s scenes of her in the projects and a strip club dressed as a Hispanic ”chola” where woc/Latina women are very graphically and violently objectified.

    • http://djupgron.wordpress.com Henke

      haha oh yes, that chapelle piece is really good! Thx for posting it, was a long time since I saw it now.

  • anaeli

    I really wish she’d stick to singing because she’s really not that bad at it, I actually quite enjoy a couple of songs.

    Whenever some really famous person says something dumb about feminism it makes me really sad. Not because there’s one person out there spewing garbage, but because that person is very influential. So if Lana del Rey rolls her eyes and gets super bored when she hears about feminism, thousands of other young women will be encouraged to do the same. Obviously people are not mindless sheep, but let’s not deny that it is much easier to adopt the viewpoints of someone influential than to actually research a topic. Sigh.

  • http://subversify.com stacy

    I could care less what celebs think but unfortunately feminism isn’t interesting to many people. I take that as a sign that women aren’t taking the implications of their social movement seriously. And that is something to ponder rather than criticize.

  • CSF

    It was clearly her deflecting that creepy ass interviewer, would you want to discuss feminism with some random man who’s prying into your sex life and telling you that you have daddy issues? Lana is not the problem, the interviewer and all media that keeps using feminism as a gotcha moment for every single female celebrity are the problem. Don’t you notice how every time this happens the leftist internet either gets out its pitchforks and torches or writes these lazy blog posts about how much they don’t care what ____ thinks about feminism? It’s such a clear divide and conquer technique.

    • Meghan Murphy

      I’m not trying to get out any pitchforks. I mostly just found her response weird and hilarious.

      Being critical of a person (and not even really the individual, actually, just the comments she made) who dismisses a movement in its entirety because they can’t be bothered to understand or think about it and says something completely stupid in response when asked about it doesn’t really strike me as “the leftist internet get[ting] out its pitchforks and torches.”

      • CSF

        Like I said below I clearly did not call your blog post part of the uproar that in Lana’s case and many others includes violent language directed towards the woman who was asked about feminism.

    • ozzie

      ”pitchforks and torches ”? Really? You’re characterizing our justified critique of people that misunderstand, misrepresent and belittle women’s civil rights efforts as a terror campaign waged by outraged unthinking herd animals with misdirected aggression. You need to take a moment to consider how this is incredibly dismissive and misogynistic.

      • CSF

        I’m a woman, and I didn’t say that this blog post was an example of the ridiculous amount of rage that stirs up after the latest female celebrity says something about feminism. In fact it’s pretty clear that I said that this post was NOT part of that, but that it’s important to acknowledge how completely bent out of shape people get about these interviews. Self described feminists are dismissing Lana as a dumb bitch with daddy issues for god’s sake.

    • Candy

      I read the interview article and he didn’t seem creepy…she even rebuffed her publicist a couple times to talk to him further.

  • http://liberalfeministtropes.blogspot.com.au/ Independent Radical

    Her dismissal of feminism sound pretty callous to me. “Sorry to all you victims of rape, domestic violence, sexual assault, body hatred, etc. I just don’t find your cause interesting enough.” How “interesting” someone thinks a cause is has nothing to do with its validity.

    I find space travel interesting too, I would find it more interesting if discussions about it were not used as an exuse to blabber on about how awesome capitalism is (SpaceX is a corporation that wants to sent people into space.) That doesn’t mean I’m going to use it as an excuse to dismiss the suffering of women worldwide.

    A women who has the freedom to do what she wants probably doesn’t need feminism. Feminism should be about standing up for the oppressed, not implicitly hating on them for not being “empowered” enough.

    And you know what Lana Del Ray? I’m not interested in celebrities. Their lives mostly boring (they enter into relationships and break up with people like everyone else, big deal), their opinions are boring (it’s the shame nonsense I hear from uninformed university students all the time) and trying to keep up with a bunch of meaningless information about what someone I’ll never meet is doing is just plain boring. I’m not going to tell celebrity women to shut up, but I would appreciate it if they found something interesting to say/do.

  • polarcontrol

    “Because to me “a woman who feels free enough to do whatever she wants” sounds “very wealthy,” not “feminist.””

    This.
    (Unfortunately relevant in many discussions among feminists too..)

  • http://nanasgotablog.com Rebel Nana

    With all of the intense and gripping news in the last few days it was an absolute joy to read this post. Thanks for the hilarious start to the day! Preference for pigmy goats – LOL – I’m falling off my chair.

  • Missfit

    Feminism, whatever form it takes, is based on the idea that women should have equal rights/opportunities/representation/respect with men (now people can disagree on how to achieve these goals). To not take for granted that a woman is a feminist shows how internalized women’s oppression is (to the point of considering women’s subordinate position as natural) or how individualistic relative privilege can blind someone to other realities. The disassociation can also be because of a distorted idea of what feminism means, which is why you sometimes hear women say ‘I’m not a feminist because I don’t hate men’ (as if feminism’s goals had anything to do with liking or hating men). Maybe phrases like ‘I’m not a feminist because I like men’ actually means ‘I like men in their dominant position’, in such case you’re right, you’re not a feminist.

    Again, what is the purpose of asking someone like her, someone who has nothing to do with feminism, if she is indeed a feminist? I’m perplexed about the motives behind such questioning. If the person says ‘no, I’m not a feminist’, then you can say that someone does not need to be a feminist in order to ‘make it’ (fame and money), thus feminism is irrelevant (because ‘making it’ is all that matte, right?). Or, if the person says she is a feminist, then you can say that portraying violence against women as sexy is feminist, so there is nothing to be critical of here.

  • mauritia

    I also gotta say that I am not surprised that Lana Del Rey isn’t into feminism. I like some of her music but the creepy persona she puts forth in a lot of her songs– some kind of cooing, baby-voiced girl who calls her boyfriend “Daddy”– doesn’t exactly scream feminist to me.

  • http://revolucionesfeministas.wordpress.com mll69

    She is not interested about feminism, but has no problem benefiting from what feminism has accomplished. How nice of her.

    • http://subversify.com Stacy

      Reminds me of a Chris Rock routine where he talks about failing black history. Underneath that joke was the subtext that some kids just don’t care, even when the subject matter directly effects their social situation.

  • SaraClue

    I wouldn’t expect feminism from a woman who dated Axl Rose.