Men’s hatred of women epitomized in their response to Jenny Beavan at the Oscars

 

It is no great irony that the male gaze is present in full force at the Oscars every year. The theory’s origins lie in feminist film theory, articulated first by Laura Mulvey, in her 1975 essay, “Visual Pleasure and Narrative Cinema,” and so it is only suitable for the tradition to be upheld during a celebration of film.

It was through the lens of a camera that we first learned about objectification and the way in which women are fetishized as sexualized things to be admired, rather than treated as full, active beings — both in film scenes and in the public sphere. Women were “to-be-looked-at,” and men were the lookers, making them permanent porn consumers, even when they weren’t in front of a screen.

In a constant pornified state, women are expected to be visually-pleasing — to titillate or die. I mean that figuratively, as of course fuckable women are sentenced to male violence just as often as unfuckable ones. But unfuckable women — those who are not conventionally attractive, young, properly passive and pleasing to men — may as well be dead in our culture: invisible, worthless, irrelevant, a source or mockery or derision. Men never suffer the same fate — their attractiveness or desirability has zero impact on their ability to be powerful, successful people, worthy of respect, worthy of being seen and heard.

This reality was exemplified on Sunday at the Oscars, as Jenny Beavan, an incredibly talented woman, widely-respected in her field, walked down the aisle to accept the award for costume design, for her work on Mad Max: Fury Road. Her male peers sneered and smirked, apparently offended that a woman who did not fit their standards of fuckability dared to show her face in public — at their awards ceremony! These men knew, just as everyone knows, that the Oscars are not really about celebrating talent, innovation, or skill, but about celebrating white men in their continued excellence at being white men. Oh, and about admiring beautiful, near-naked, decorated women.

Men like Tom McCarthy, the 49-year-old director of Spotlight, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, the 52-year-old director of The Revenant, and Steve Golin, the 60-year-old producer of The Revenant and Spotlight, made it perfectly clear that they had no interest in celebrating the talent of women. They made clear, with their laughing and their angry stares, that they had no interest in celebrating women at all. They made clear that they believe women are still, in 2016, to be seen and not heard, and that unless women can be used as masturbatory material, they are worthless.

For the record, Beavan looked great. I mean, look at this fucking jacket:

Jenny Beavan

But also, who gives a fuck? Literally no one comments on the age or attractiveness of men at the Oscars. They are permitted to be celebrated and treated with respect regardless of wrinkles, weight, or style. In fact, older men are treated with more respect and admiration than anyone else at the awards show. Appearance, age, and clothing only become relevant when it comes to women.

So, while some have called the treatment of Beavan “humiliating,” I disagree. The only people who should be humiliated at this response are the men whose grotesque, unapologetic hatred for women has now been publicly outed.

Shame.

Meghan Murphy
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Meghan Murphy is a freelance writer and journalist. She has been podcasting and writing about feminism since 2010 and has published work in numerous national and international publications, including New Statesman, Vice, Al Jazeera, The Globe and Mail, I-D, Truthdig, and more. Meghan completed a Masters degree in the department of Gender, Sexuality and Women’s Studies at Simon Fraser University in 2012 and lives in Vancouver, B.C. with her dog.

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  • Nancy Lee Segal

    Brilliantly wrought but open your female eyes … The male gaze knows no color race or even sadder to say…. Gender
    Thank you very much for a well written article keep them coming

  • ElleMarie

    Showed just the clip to my roommate, not even coming at it from a feminist position, just showed him the clip. And he immediately jumped on to play “Devils Advocate” about why the men might have been looking at her that way. So many excuses for the way men look at us, never any honesty. I’m so angry.

  • XzVs

    You are really reaching in this article. You got all that in 3 seconds. By the way, some of those men looked gay. Women are way harder on other women them these men allegedly are.

    • Meghan Murphy

      Plenty of gay men hate women too.

      • Cassandra

        And how.

    • J MacK

      Define “looked gay”

  • JoGoDant

    From that Vine I can only see two people clapping. A man and a woman. Apparently they all started clapping when they got closer to the stage. Are the non-clapping women also guilty of woman hate? I don’t think there’s enough evidence here.

    • radwonka

      The article talks about objectification, the male gaze, women who don’t fit the porn standard of fuckability and this all you’ve got to say?

      Like, Why are you still here JoGoDant? Last time you were defending brothels in Germany, pornography and you were also racist. And now you’re trying the old “women do the same so it’s ok/let’s focus on women!” apolitical, outdated and incorrect MRA argument.

      Your comments don’t add anything to the discussion. Never. Maybe you should find a hobby or something.

      • Sally Hansen

        “If everyone else is doing it (or in this case not doing it) then it must be ok”. So sick of this MRA/libfem argument. See it constantly. lol same-ol, same-ol

        • JoGoDant

          That’s not it at all. The title of this article starts with “men’s hatred of women” and the clip shows a fairly gender-equal reaction from the crowd.

          • Sally Hansen

            lol no, it doesn’t.

      • JoGoDant

        I put forward the opinion that the evidence presented is not enough to support the claims in the article.

        You have attacked me personally with accusations of racism, with no evidence, and made no argument.

        • Meghan Murphy

          You are not being personally attacked. Your angle/arguments are being attacked. Please stop making this about you.

          • JoGoDant

            “you were defending brothels in Germany, pornography and you were also racist”

            I’m not the one making it about me. I’m responding to false statements.

          • Meghan Murphy

            Did you not?

          • JoGoDant

            I did not.

          • radwonka
          • JoGoDant

            You seem to be confused. If I said, for example, that the San Fernando massacre didn’t cause the sexual assaults in Cologne, that isn’t me defending the San Fernando massacre, that’s me saying their is no causal link between these two things.

            The taharrush gangs in Cologne aren’t inspired by German brothels and German porn, just like the taharrush gangs in North African and Middle Eastern countries aren’t inspired by German brothels and German porn.

        • radwonka

          The article talks about the objectification of women. Your MRA red herring- https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red_Herring- (because yea, what you said,was not an argument) doesn’t change anything about the fact that women are objectified and looked down by men when they don’t fit patriarchal standards.

          I’m asking again, why are you still here?

          I shouldn’t have to screenshot your own words, but since you want to play the dumb guy with short memory, here you go:
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbd096ca67a74941decaed50cc945044e41863e1b3313468fd7c27dcfa47f820.png

      • JoGoDant

        Was I defending brothels? Or pornography? Or saying anything racist?

        You are not being accurate.

        • radwonka

          I am accurate.

    • Sally Hansen

      Yes, females hating females is a thing. It’s called internalized misogyny and most women are socialized to do it because we *gasp* live under Patriarchy and it’s all encompassing.

  • Lucia Lola

    The looks on their faces, the movement of their eyes…yeah, I think calling the spade here is warranted. A simple glance over at the women alongside that aisle would highlight the difference, exempting the one who felt compelled to hide her mouth for fear of lip reading.

    This is gross. Of these men, particularly.

    • Zuzanna Smith

      Yup, it’s high school all over again, *shudder*

  • Misanthropia

    The day when women will allowed to just be, is not here.

  • Melissa Cutler

    I was wondering why this particular article had attracted gamer trolls in the comments section, but then I recalled that the title directly mentions men’s hatred of women–which is a quite effective bat signal for MRAs online.

    • David Connors

      Melissa Cutler, are you referring to me? I write an honest, sincerely held opinion that may not fall into line with yours, and you call me a gamer troll (whatever the hell that is; remember, I am one of those despicable old white guys). Does this mean that you fear Meghan’s opinion, or your opinion, may not stand up to scrutiny, so therefore you have to resort to name-calling? You may not be referring to me, and if not, disregard this comment. But i see only one other mildly critical comment here, and that person certainly does not deserve to be called names, either.

      • Meghan Murphy

        Please stick to making comments that include content, David.

        • David Connors

          Ok. Sorry did not realize I had done that. I must have pushed a wrong button or something.

      • Melissa Cutler

        oh boy, here we go

  • David Connors

    It’s interesting how some feminists force things to fit their agenda. In the short video clip that accompanies this post, I saw as many men applaud as women. And I saw as many women with bemused expressions on their faces as men. That’s all this was — bemusement. I suspect anyone dressed so unconventionally — cisgender, gay, bi, trans, confused, unconfirmed, grandmother, Earth mother, boy, girl, alien, ethereal being, first second third or fourth wave feminist or fashion model — would trigger a similar amount of bemusement. Bemusement is not judgment, nor is it hatred. But perhaps Meghan would prefer that we all sit with a fixed, bland, meaningless smile on our faces no matter what comes into our field of vision. Heaven help an old, white guy if he happens to have a resting bitch face. I’m an old white guy. I don’t like being portrayed as evil incarnate. I feel some hate being cast my way in this article. I am feeling a bit angry. But I will not sink to Meghan Murphy’s level. Please, Meghan, try not to rush to judgment quite so fast.

    • radwonka

      “Meghan would prefer that we all sit with a fixed, bland, meaningless
      smile on our faces no matter what comes into our field of vision”

      That’s not what she said, don’t twist her words. Expecting men to be respectful is NOT the same thing as expecting them to be brainless robots (and aren’t men already misogynist robots anyway?).

      On the other hand, women should NOT have to have a “fixed, bland, meaningless smile on their faces” to fit a porn standard of fuckability. But you won’t criticize these roles forced on women obviously.

    • Cassandra

      But what about meeeeee? I’m such a sad white man! I’m not evil! Boo hoo stop saying meanie things about crapulent entitled sexist asshole Hollywood scumbags. Here, let me use a bullshit social justice word like “cisgender” to try to offset my use of the MRA dogwhistle word “agenda” and make me sound hip!

      Go away MRA.

      • David Connors

        Thank you Cassandra. You are very good at sarcasm. However, I was hoping for some reasonable dialogue, which, I am pleased to see, some feminist commenters did provide. I am interested in the issues and concerns expressed here and I was hoping to learn something.

        • Sally Hansen

          “I was hoping to learn something.” No, actually, you were hoping to lecture us, which is what you did. It’s called mansplaining. But thanks for telling us why Hollywood isn’t sexist when it so clearly is. We just didn’t know because our lady parts were obscuring our ability to reason properly the way you can, oh high and mighty penis’d one lol

          • Zuzanna Smith

            Love that! *my vagina got in my eyes so I couldn’t see it the right way* LOL

          • David Connors

            Sally I did not come to lecture. I do not feel myself qualified to do so. My only point was that there may be an alternate explanation for the actions of the AA crowd and the fact that someone may have been caught on camera with an ‘unacceptable’ expression on their face may not be evidence of women hating. Everything spiralled down from there. It was kind of like I walked past a construction site.

          • Sally Hansen

            ” It was kind of like I walked past a construction site.” what exactly are you referring to here?

          • Sally Hansen

            “Sally I did not come to lecture” I think another poster did a pretty good job of debunking this claim.

          • Tired feminist

            HELL FUCKING NO, it was not as you’d “walked past a construction site”. NO ONE sexually harassed you. Have some shame on your face. You’re being a million times more disrespectful than all these women “attacking” you. Fuck right off.

        • Melissa Cutler

          No, David, you did not originally comment looking for some reasonable dialogue because you started your original post with: “It’s interesting how some feminists force things to fit their agenda”, which is incredibly insulting. And they you end the original post saying you’ll never sink as low as Meghan Murphy? Did you think that line would be received well? This is a website she started and maintains. And then you whine about how you were hoping we’d take the time to educate you after all that? Educate yourself.

          • David Connors

            For what it’s worth, I apologized to Meghan for that comment privately.

          • Sally Hansen

            Best quote ever. The more I read from this amazing woman, the more I love her.

          • Melissa Cutler

            Same here.

    • Zuzanna Smith

      Hey, Meghan you hurt this old white guy’s feelings, shame on you:) Hey Dave, you’re not entitled to not have hurt feelings, sorry, oh and cisgender is a slur, so don’t use it. Women are expected to have pasted on smiles when we deal with men all our lives, case in point “Mya” Taylor winning a best supporting FEMALE award, even though he is clearly male. See all those women there clapping for him, when one of them should have won? They are doing it put of politeness.

      • CeCe

        Cisgender is not a slur that I am aware of. It is the reference to one who is not transgender rather than some of the terms that have issues, like biological or natural. Unless you have heard something I have not. Mind you, the guy is a total a$$hat, but that term is not a problem for me.

        • Zuzanna Smith

          It is actually and you can tell by how it’s routinely used, ciswoman, cissexist, cisprivilege, cisscum. It was invented and widely accepted not only for male trans”women” to diminish women and their femaleness and their womanhood by calling it cis, but as a pejorative against non trans people to use every time trans feelings aren’t being given top billing over everyone else’s.

        • radwonka

          cisgender is not a scientific word like “biological”. It’s an essentialist concept.

        • Cassandra

          Cisgender is a slur. Females are an oppressed class. Our oppression is based on our female reproductive system, and “gender” (sex-role stereotypes) is part of how that’s done. The term “cisgender” implies that any given female feels comfortable with oppressive “gender” (sex-based stereotypes/roles). It is regressive and offensive.

    • Codi Michel Johnson

      Something I’ve learned: one cannot feel ‘guilted’ by something unless they already feel guilty. The old saying is “If the shoe fits, wear it.” Why do people forget the unsaid part of that? That if the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t wear it? Yes, I used to bristle when I heard or read something about ‘white privilege’, because I knew I hadn’t received nearly the ‘privilege’ that others received. Then I realized how stupid that was.

    • Christine

      Men aren’t evil: it’s patriarchy with which most of us feminists take issue.

      On the subject of the male gaze, I would recommend to you John Berger’s _Ways of Seeing_. That old white dude fully appreciated and articulated the concept in Part 3 of his book. It’s available online as a .pdf, too.

      • David Connors

        Thanks, Christine, I will look up that book. I really will. I am not just saying that. I appreciate that you, and a few others, responded to me as a human being in this comment thread.

      • will

        That’s a good recommendation for David, given that it was written [first for television, then in book form] by an older white male academic, over four decades ago. I think that David might absorb Berger’s very very basic concept.

        Too bad he just could not simply read this blog, a tremendous source for current feminist analysis. It’s pretty clear that David does not trust female academics and thinkers to articulate and apply social analysis to their own experience and to the culture around them. Because of all that vaginal bias and so on…

    • marv

      Hollywood is one of the most ultra masculine and feminine places on Earth. It’s a sexist hotbed as an industry. The onus is on you to prove these men are bemused not misogynist. It’s also likely that many of the ones clapping were being ‘man’nerly but insincere. Take a break from naivete.

      • David Connors

        There we go again. I express an opinion and somebody’s got to call it naive. How does this sort of response promote meaningful dialogue? At least Christine, below, took the time to address me as a real human being and deal with some of the questions I have. Thanks to the rest of you. Good luck with the revolution.

        • Tired feminist

          Why did you come to a feminist space to defend misogynist men? “Naive” is the nicest thing one can call this attitude.

          • David Connors

            Didn’t think I was defending misogynist men. I was not aware that it has been proven that all those men (and women) in the Vine whose actions have been deemed inappropriate are misogynist. Do we have any other Vines to compare to? Vines where they are all clapping enthusiastically for some misogynist bro of theirs? Or Vines where they are sitting in stony silence while other women accept their awards? Do these men (and women) have a track record of misogyny? Have they had a chance to respond to these accusations? And what, in your opinion, is my attitude? I was simply reacting to what I felt was an unfounded attack; a rush to judgement. I didn’t think it mattered that that this is a feminist site. Feminists try to be fair, do they not? Feminists can make mistakes too, can they not? And don’t worry about being nice. Call me anything you think I deserve. I am curious to know how you would label me, based on our brief little interaction here.

          • Tired feminist

            Yes, you did defend misogynistic behavior of misogynistic men. Stop crying.

          • marv

            Hollywood is ruled by white male supremacy. The whole place is structurally their business domain. Exceptions don’t disprove the rule. Whether the men clap or don’t, doesn’t change the subordination of women as a system.

            I would label you a die hard liberal who can’t see the sex/gender political classes of masculinity and femininity that must be abolished.

        • Sally Hansen

          Oh, you’re offended. Try having a real argument. Next lol

        • will

          Your comment is naive. Just because Christine did not use the words, but instead suggested a 101 reader does not change that fact. You seem to expect to be treated with kid gloves (could it be that you presume that females are going to be gentle and buoy up your ego whenever they address you?). No one has used as hominem attacks in response to your predictable and ill-informed comments, and yet you are whining. You are way out of your depth in this thread. Deal with it.

          • David Connors

            I find a lot of arguments here to be like the ones fundamentalist Christians make. You know… Starbucks didn’t say Merry Christmas on its red cups so it hates Jesus. Call me naive, stupid, mysoginist an MRA, a troll, whatever. So far, it seems name calling is the best you’ve got. Guess we will have to wait for the fifth wave feminists.

          • Meghan Murphy

            Who’s ‘we’?

          • David Connors

            Sorry. Should have been more clear. By ‘we’ I mean people who are doing what they can to help the world become a place where everyone has a real chance of pursuing a fulfilling life, whatever that life might be to them.

    • Melanie

      “Heaven help an old, white guy if he happens to have a resting bitch
      face. I’m an old white guy. I don’t like being portrayed as evil
      incarnate. I feel some hate being cast my way in this article. I am
      feeling a bit angry”.

      The irony of this comment is completely lost on you precisely because you’re an old white guy.

    • Sally Hansen

      “But perhaps Meghan would prefer that we all sit with a fixed, bland, meaningless smile on our faces no matter what comes into our field of vision.” Actually, what all of us here would prefer is that a person who is called up for a well-deserved award be applauded just like everyone else was. Why is that so much to ask? It’s called being respectful, and, ya know, not an immature 13 year old?

  • Jack Richards

    Rob Zombie, an acclaimed director and musician was physically tackled by red carped security because they thought he was a homeless man. He’s actually just a metal head. This at the same oscars that you’re talking about here. So is this really a gendered issue? On one hand a woman was looked at funny because of how she dressed, and on the other, a man was TACKLED TO THE GROUND BY A SECURITY TEAM.

    • Meghan Murphy

      The global problem of violence against women, misogyny, and objectification is of more concern to me than the one-time, accidental treatment of Rob Zombie.

      • Jack Richards

        Beaven received no violence. No objectification. And you’re making an Olympic leap to say that a less than enthusiastic crowd on announcement of her oscar was due to the fact that that nights crowd just disliked women. Maybe they were just disappointed that the Revenant didn’t win? Especially those who worked on the Renevant who you mention looking quite unhappy. But no, they must hate women. If they were beaten by a man, they would have been over the moon right?
        Anyway, I thought the problem here was people being judged by how they dress? Not women being hated by everyone.

        • Meghan Murphy

          Do you truly believe that objectification, misogyny, and male violence against women are disconnected?

          • Jack Richards

            Who said that? Don’t move the goalposts. I’m not here arguing about the source of violence.
            I’m saying that Jenny Beaven’s case has nothing to do with it. When she won, others lost. Others who felt deserving of that award. And it took them a few seconds and a disappointed glance at each other to resign to the fact that the oscar was not theirs and clap out of good sportsmanship. This has nothing to do with objectification, misogyny or violence. Poor sportsmanship maybe, if you want to argue that case. They should have applauded imminently to be polite, but that’s not violence.

          • will

            Not only are they disconnected Meghan, they do not even exist. Jack Richards has not experienced them nor thought about them. You see, Honey, the universe is made up of the sum total of everything Jack Richards has felt or thought about, ergo, objectification and male violence against women don’t exist.

      • Mellie

        Giving nasty looks to a woman who wore a motorcycle jacket to a black tie event is violence??

        • Sally Hansen

          Where did Meghan say this? You are equivocating two separate things, while Meghan is explaining the correlation between women’s objectification of women on one end of the spectrum and men’s disapproval of women on the other side of it.

    • Tangelo

      The Rob Zombie story is false, it was a hoax.

      http://www.snopes.com/rob-zombie-academy-awards/

      • Meghan Murphy

        HA

    • corvid

      So you’re saying that in addition to being racist and misogynist, the AA’s are classist as well. Big freakin’ shock there Jack.

  • chantal lancaster

    The jacket AND the strut. I really don’t think she gives a good goddamned f*ck….

    • Sally Hansen

      i know, right? I love how she was just like “fuck all y’all. i won.”

  • Meghan Murphy

    And yet….

    • Hiri Nurmi

      And yet what?

      • Meghan Murphy

        Well, you can say it doesn’t make sense but it is the reality.

  • Meghan Murphy

    You found Mad Max boring??

    • northernTNT

      The MRA backlash was so strong, I was expecting some sort of power to women feminist film and in seeing it was extremely disappointed. The MRA attacks were so completely nonsensical. All I saw were scantily clad sexy women… and a bunch of circus acts. But then again, I’m not really a fan of the franchise, though I somewhat liked the dystopian nature of the very first one.

      • Meghan Murphy

        I’m not a fan of the franchise or of action flicks, in general, but I thought it was excellent.

        • northernTNT

          I liked the older women tribe. It was my one high point in the film. I’ve reviewed about this tidbit in other forums. I wish they’d played a much bigger role.

  • David Connors

    At last. Some humour. Some attempts at goodwill and understanding. An opportunity to respond given to at least one of the people we were so quick to judge. Some extreme graciousness from Jenny Beavan. I know my opinion of her means nothing, but I like her. After the way she handled all of this, I am going to look into some of her other work.
    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/03/alejandro-gonzalez-inarritu-i-did-applaud-jenny-beavan-at-the-oscars

    • Sally Hansen

      Yes, tell us more about how you are a victim of the evil matriarchy lol This is such a typical reaction from MRA’s. Step 1) come into a feminist blog/forum with a condescending attitude toward feminists and feminism as a whole, 2) expect feminists to not respond to your negative attitude with negativity in turn, 3) gaslight feminists and make it seem like they are the crazy ones for “attacking” you (read: pointing out your bullshit). Do I really need to say anymore? No, I think I’m done.

  • David Connors

    And one more thing before I go. Here is a snip from EW, whose Vine may have triggered the whole brouhaha in the first place: “Additionally, on the day after the Oscars, Iñárritu clarified the misunderstanding in a private message to Beavan herself — to which she fully accepted his explanation. The Vine was intended by EW to show a flyaway snippet of the four-hour Oscar marathon. Ascribing any unsanitary motive to Iñárritu, especially given the reality of the situation, is to invent a scandal where none exists. And so, EW apologizes to Iñárritu for our role in inadvertently, and with no ill intent, creating an impression of him that was inaccurate.”
    I will conclude by saying that in no way are my comments on this site meant to detract from the war against misogyny and patriarchalism. It just seems to me that the battles need to be picked with more care.

  • freelancewriternyc

    I didn’t see any smirking in that 2-second video; perhaps surprise. If you want to see smirking, look at reactions to Cher & Streisand picking up their awards. Neither highly eroticized outfits fit the writer’s narrative.

  • Misanthropia

    Also regarding Rob Zombie, I think this is the only time a man got treated like this because of how he was dressed. But as a white male be will never be under the microscope of the racist, misogynist beauty industrial complex. The rest of the year he can look however he wants with his stupid white people ‘dreadlocks’ and tattoos and no one will even say anything. While a female celebrity is downgraded for aging, for not getting botox (see the Carrie Fisher fiasco), for not being thin (see the way Gabourey Sidibe is talked about), for not losing weight after pregnancy( Bollywood actress Aishwarya Rai was derided for being fat after her pregnancy). Men, especially those who are in metal/rock bands, don’t realise how good they have it.

  • will

    I disagree. Costume design is a huge part of effective storytelling on screen – as much or, I’d argue, more than the selection of lenses, frame and camera movement, AKA cinematography. It just happens to be yet another female ghetto wherein the talent and labour is undervalued, underpaid and largely unacknowledged. Cinematography, on the other hand is a boys club of smug overly-lauded dudes. Knowing what a particular character would wear at a particular moment in history and in a particular situation requires a deep understand of both history, culture and human beings as well as the specific narrative that is being presented.

    • Zuzanna Smith

      Yes, I totally agree, costumes and period clothing just like uniforms and traditional garb are history and an important part of all cultures, what people wore is a big part of the human experience. And I also agree that when women used to be the only ones making clothing it was “woman’s work” and undervalued and now since there are so many male designers it is high art. Men steal everything women have made and make each other out to be such hot shit, but a lot of them are overhyped hacks like Gaultier and Kanye West, bleh, uglee clothes.

  • Meghan Murphy

    I didn’t think she was under dressed… Why does she have to wear a ball gown in order to be ‘respectful of the event’?

    • Mellie

      No, she could have worn a tuxedo. Ellen Degeneres (sp?) and Dianne Keaton always wear “men clothing” but it is always appropriate. Wearing sweat pants at work is inappropriate. What made this women think that going to the Oscars with a motorcycle jacket was appropriate.

      • Tired feminist

        That’s a matter of taste. I found that jacket awesome.

        • Mellie

          It is a matter of dress code. The jacket is awesome for another venue.

      • will

        You’re advocating for people to wear both gendered and classed clothing.

        • Mellie

          She already is wearing gendered clothing. Wearing a tux wouldn’t be more gender conforming than a motorcycle jacket. You don’t wear a tuxedo to a baseball game, and you don’t wear what she wore at the Oscars.

      • Tangelo

        It was a nod to the costume design in Mad Max. The movie that she won the Oscar for. So, yes, very appropriate and that jacket is very cool.

      • marv

        The Oscars are a vainglorious and pompous affair established on patriarchal gendered capitalist relations. The event badly needs radical transformation if not abolition. Dissident clothing is a small step in the right direction. Tuxedos are as bland and unimaginative as can be no matter who wears them. Unthinking conformity rules the mainstream and its defenders.

  • Sally Hansen

    I think I’m beginning to understand why MRA’s are so flipped out by this post. Not only did a woman win the award, it was for a movie with a feminist message. They just cannot handle it lol If Star Wars won any awards, they are probably pissed about that too.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Because I love woman-hating so much?

  • Tired feminist

    What makes you think your interpretation is unbiased?

    • Hiri Nurmi

      Sorry? How does it make any sense at all that she’s being hated on for receiving an Oscar by the very same people who voted for her to receive it?

      • Meghan Murphy

        Are all those men members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences?

      • marv

        In a different scenario an indigenous woman may be awarded recognition for her artistic talents by a white organization but that doesn’t necessarily translate into acknowledging the egregious colonization of her lands and body by whites. You can still be racist and sexist while applauding personal abilities. It’s only a rational system to the colonizers or the colonized who have internalized their oppression.

      • Tired feminist

        Meghan didn’t say Beavan was sneered at for receiving an Oscar. She said Beavan was sneered at for despising their expectations about how women are supposed to look like.

        • Hiri Nurmi

          Which is plainly nonsense as she was awarded the Oscar by her peers, who must be assumed to know how she dresses.

          The fundamental issue with this article is that it only makes any sense if it assumes that Oscars are somehow awarded by some other entity than the class of people who are judged to have ‘sneered’ at the awards themselves. The fact that it’s the same class of people (the Oscars after all are well known as Hollywood patting itself on it’s own back) can only mean that this perception is just plain wrong, or that there’s a Byzantine Patriarchal Conspiracy that orchestrated awarding her the Oscar so they could later sneer. Really?

          • Tired feminist

            There are around 6,000 people voting for the Academy Awards. What makes you so damn sure that all of them knew her personally?

  • Melissa Cutler

    So many men here in the comments are outraged by the assertion that the reaction to Jenny Beavan reflects men’s hatred of women. And yet, on another article on Feminist Current about the Oscars this year that points out a lot more evidence of men’s hatred of women [http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/03/01/the-weeknd-oscars-boys-club], all these same men are conspicuously absent, probably because it doesn’t involve your bat signal word, “hatred”. MRAs, do you think we don’t notice that? Some of you here have attacked our logic and ability to reason rationally, some of you come here claiming you just want to learn and have a rational discussion, but the truth is that none of you are the least bit interested in engaging anywhere on this website that doesn’t directly involve ‘sticking it to those irrational feminists’ for daring to call men out on your gender’s hatred of women. And we see that. We see where you choose to swerve into our lane and where you stay silent. We see you all quite clearly.

  • Mellie

    Dress codes are not contrary to feminism provided the dress code is not gendered. Like I said she could have worn comfortable dress shoes and a tuxedo. Saying you can’t wear sweat pants to the Oscars does not mean I am saying you have to wear gender based clothing.

    • will

      I disagree. Dress codes inhere with class enforcement. Feminism seeks to dismantle class hierarchies.

      I find your insistence that anyone attending the oscars wear gender-coded clothing: either expensive dresses or tuxes very bizarre, whether you allow for swapping or not. Have you found what Cher has worn there objectionable? Matt Stone and Trey Parker? Bjork?

      • Mellie

        You are deliberately misconstruing what I said. I said the issue isn’t gender coded clothing, it is formal vs causal wear. You don’t wear a t shirt or flip flops to the Oscars. I can’t see how this is gendered, as I never implied she should wear a dress.

        • will

          “I said the issue isn’t gender coded clothing, it is formal vs causal wear.” Which is highly classed, as I said.

  • Mellie

    I said she doesn’t have to wear sex marked clothing. But the event like say an Opera house has the right to say no flip flops. I don’t see that as classicist.

  • Meghan Murphy

    What exactly is your point, Hiri? And how is it relevant to the overall argument made in the OP?

  • Tired feminist

    You don’t seem to understand how misogyny works.

  • Lulemore

    I agree with Meghan’s observations of the impact of the entertainment industry on women’s experience of disappointment with men. I never thoght about feminism but was attracted to men that take care to look attrctive to women and are emotionally demonstrative. What i did not expect to encounter when working and happily supporting myself was that what I thought would be a great addition to my life and romantic incentive would instead be the source of frustration. Too many people a) don not realize just how visual many women are and b) that what one sees in porn serves the audience via camera angles and obliviousness to actual physical human (female especially) experience. The more surface area one sees, the less pleasure. It’s and inverse correlation. Despite agreeing with almost everything Meghan ever says, I do not think that this award winning costume designer was appropriate to dress so informally to the Academy Awards. She could have gotten more creative still, and worn a formal dress or shirt and slacks with that same relevant jacket. Her jacket was meaningful in that it represented the style of the movie for which she designed the costumes. That does not excuse the scarf and other informal attire.

  • JoGoDant

    I’m okay with that. If someone can be convinced by an accusation and no evidence, then they are not rational. If somebody is irrational, there is no rational thing that can change their mind, nor would there be any reason for me to do so.

    But If you’re going to accuse me of being a racist, an MRA, and a defender of porn and brothels, (which incidentally have nothing to do with the topic) at least provide some evidence.