No, Teen Vogue, the backlash to your anal sex article was not rooted in homophobia

Teen Vogue is not ‘woke.’ Also, stop saying ‘woke.’

Many of you read (and were likely angered by) an article published earlier this month at Teen Vogue called “Anal Sex: What You Need to Know.” The piece is framed as a body positive sex ed lesson — it claims to explain anatomy, address sexual health, and challenge traditional “penis in vagina” sex. In order to avoid expected backlash to an article about anal sex in a magazine aimed at teen girls and young women, the author, Gigi Engle includes a caveat early on:

“Even if you do learn more and decide anal sex is not a thing you’d like to try, it doesn’t hurt to have the information.

If you’re not comfortable reading about anal sex, that’s perfectly OK, too. We have plenty of other articles around a variety of issues and wellness. Feel free to click out if you’d like! No pressure at all.”

See! You can’t be mad — it’s your own fault for reading the thing in the first place. Buyer beware.

But the problem with Teen Vogue’s anal sex how-to guide is not that it discusses anal sex and that some people are just, you know, uptight about that kind of thing. The problem is that the article included a glaring anatomical error, failed to address any of the larger contexts surrounding anal sex and women (namely, patriarchy), and completely erased women from the conversation. Literally. Neither the word “woman” or the word “female” appear once in the entire article. Even the diagram depicting female and male anatomy uses the terms “prostate owner” and “non-prostate owner” (uncomfortably reminiscent of Green Party Women’s call to “non-men” last year), and Engle uses the term “vagina owners” in order to avoid uttering the horribly offensive word, “women.”

Engle says that “anal sex, though often stigmatized, is a perfectly natural way to engage in sexual activity,” but fails to acknowledge that it is mainly men who engage or wish to engage in anal sex. While she claims an interest in anatomy, Engle either doesn’t understand or (more likely) doesn’t want to get in trouble with the sex positive/queer brigade by pointing out the obvious: men’s bodies are better equipped to enjoy anal sex. This is because, 1) Men have penises that they seem to enjoy sticking in various places, and 2) Men have prostates, which are conducive to butt orgasms. Women, on the other hand, don’t have sexual organs they can stick inside other people, thereby providing said women with orgasms, nor do they have any glands or sex organs inside their rectum that trigger sexual release. Yes, some women claim to enjoy anal sex, which is fine, if true, but failing to discuss these basics in an article presenting itself as sex positive, body positive, and educational, is incredibly weird.

Again, Engle tries to cover her bases, saying, “That being said, anal (like all sex acts) is not enjoyed by everyone, and that’s totally OK.” Everyone who, I wonder? I mean, yeah, people have different bodies and like different things, sexually. But intentionally choosing not to discuss sex differences and the implications of those differences on sexual pleasure leaves a big gap in terms of the “sex ed” component of this lesson, as does neglecting to address the impact of patriarchy on sex.

The reality for girls and women is that they have grown up in a culture that teaches them “sex” means: penetrative, heterosexual, and resulting in male orgasm. Porn culture teaches us that sex is linear, culminating in the money shot, and that women are things to be penetrated — anywhere and everywhere they can be penetrated. We also learn that if a man doesn’t get off, it doesn’t count. So already, male pleasure is central in terms of our cultural understanding of sex. Beyond that, there is this thing we call “rape culture,” wherein men coercing, convincing, and pestering women into sex and into various sex acts is the norm. And not only the norm, but glorified — men who succeed at this “game” are “players.” Getting a woman to engage in anal sex is something men brag to their friends about; and not just because they enjoy the experience, physically, but because they know women don’t want to do it, that it is uncomfortable or even painful for women, and that it equates to a show of power. If that were not the case, men would be bragging to each other every time they masturbated.

So this is some of the context we are dealing with. And now we have a magazine recently heralded as radical (“woke,” in passé internet dialect), whose readership is primarily girls and young women, presenting yet another male-centered sexual practice as gender-neutral and sex positive — just something adventurous, open minded, “queer” (i.e. progressive) people do.

Engle talks a lot about communication and open, honest discussion, sure, but she also talks about anal sex as a challenge to overcome. She discusses the fact that the anus is not naturally lubricated, that it’s very easy to get injured, that it’s usually uncomfortable at some or all points for the “vagina owner,” and that (hey!) the anus isn’t like a vagina. But she never suggests that, actually, there is no reason a woman needs to grit her teeth and try anal sex with her male partner, just because he wants to. Further, Engle treats the person asking for anal sex (who is most likely to be male, though of course she doesn’t say so) as though they are somehow vulnerable, saying, “Asking for anal can be a bit daunting, no matter who you are.” Like, yeah, the big hurdle we need overcome is men’s fear of asking women to fulfill their porny fantasies…

But here’s the kicker: while the article presents itself as pro-sexual pleasure, the diagram of the “non-prostate owner’s” sexual organs doesn’t include a clitoris.
That’s right — the sexual organ primarily responsible for women’s orgasms was omitted from an instructive diagram about sex, aimed at women.

Naturally, the feminist internet got mad. Naturally, women asked questions, such as: “Why have you omitted the existence of males and females?” “Why is Teen Vogue teaching young women and girls how to accommodate male fantasies?” Where the fuck is the clitoris?!”

The response to these questions and critiques? Fuck you/what about the men.

Digital Editorial Director of Teen Vogue, Phillip Picardi, responded with a “tweet storm” celebrated by queer media and liberals alike. Ignoring literally everything women had said about the article, Picardi claimed that the backlash was rooted in “homophobia” and ignorance, adding, “How can you expect young women to not get pregnant without access to reproductive health care?”

Perhaps Picardi is unfamiliar with the audience of the magazine he works for, or perhaps he doesn’t realize that women can’t get pregnant via their butts. More likely, he was defensive and also a man, so responded by centering himself, lying about the criticism, and literally giving women the finger.

https://twitter.com/pfpicardi/status/885923789485342721

The author of the piece responded in an even worse way, doubling down, claiming those criticizing her piece were “psycho” and “trolls,” painting herself as a brave truth-teller, up against repressive pearl-clutchers, and repeating the word “woke” over and over again.

Aside from not publishing such a harmful, anti-woman piece in the first place, the best way Teen Vogue could have dealt with all this would have been to address the criticisms head-on, and publish a response, from a real, live female feminist. Of course, they haven’t and likely won’t, because the reason Teen Vogue published an article encouraging young women to engage in painful sex with self-centered men, that wholly erased biological sex, then framed the whole thing as “sex-positive,” is because they are not here for women.

Teen Vogue’s parent company, Condé Nast, says the magazine aims to “educate, enlighten, and empower young women, arming them with all they need to lead stylish and informed lives.” Teen Vogue editor-in-chief, Elaine Welteroth, told The Guardian in February, “We say ‘woke’ here. We’re a woke brand, and our readers are woke, too.” But the magazine’s efforts to appear “woke” remain rooted in marketability, not in an effort to effect real political change or empower girls and women to say “fuck you” to the male gaze and porn culture. Condé Nast (and the company that owns Condé Nast, Advance Publications) has long produced magazines that convince girls and women to hate themselves, but to address that self-hatred by spending money. (The companies also have a history of union-busting, for the record.) While Teen Vogue has clearly made an effort to publish more challenging and political content, their criticisms of Trump and “slut-shaming” can only happen within a context that also encourages capitalism and discourages women’s liberation. I mean, do you really think Condé Nast would survive a socialist, feminist revolution?

That reality aside, I do still think Teen Vogue should be held to account for what they publish. They can be capitalist while also acknowledging that female bodies exist and while producing responsible information about sex. My intention here is not to shrug and say, “Oh well, what did you expect.”

Teen Vogue is enormously influential, in terms of how girls and women see themselves and the world around them. It is irresponsible and hypocritical to claim political righteousness and to align oneself with marginalized groups, while feeding such harmful messages to the most oppressed group of all: women.

If Teen Vogue ever wants to recover from this mess and create the reputation they so desperately desire, they need to do more than defend themselves disingenuously, hoping no one will notice they aren’t being truthful in those defenses. They need to stop erasing the bodies and realities of those they wish to profit from, in an effort to fit in with the neoliberal queer movement that dominates “feminist” discourse in the U.S. And they also, for fuck’s sake, need to stop saying “woke.”

Meghan Murphy
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Meghan Murphy is a freelance writer and journalist. She has been podcasting and writing about feminism since 2010 and has published work in numerous national and international publications, including New Statesman, Vice, Al Jazeera, The Globe and Mail, I-D, Truthdig, and more. Meghan completed a Masters degree in the department of Gender, Sexuality and Women’s Studies at Simon Fraser University in 2012 and lives in Vancouver, B.C. with her dog.

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  • Misanthropia

    I fail to see how anal can be a pleasurable act for women and girls. Women don’t have a prostate that can be stimulated by anal sex. It is an act that could only bring pleasure to gay men. But for women I believe it is an act of degradation towards them, since it’s not only devoid of physiological pleasure but it’s also frequently uncomfortable and painful. Male pleasure needs to stop being the centre for sexuality.

  • Brain and Nerve

    I am so angry about this. About the culture that enabled this ridiculous article in the first place. Young girls are so, so abandoned by the left. Funny how the rise in liberal feminism seems to co-incide with a drastic increase in self-harm amongst adolescent and teen girls. Adults who are feeing this poison to kids should be ashamed of themselves.

  • skilletblonde

    Again, about 75% of Queer Culture’s evolution is about some kind of a mocking, degradation, dominance and erasure of women. We must fight this with every ounce of our being.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Reading the article above might help.

  • Meghan Murphy

    “The clitoris is not included on the diagram because it is a diagram of internal reproductive systems, not external. There are many external sexual parts that aren’t included on both the male and female diagrams.”

    Um. But there is a penis?

    • Firefly1399

      There is a penis but I don’t see any of the external parts of it being identified. You know, the shaft, glans, foreskin, etc. Just like the vagina has been identified in a general sense but no external parts have been identified.

      • Meghan Murphy

        The penis is an external sexual organ. Why was it included but not the clitoris, considering the importance of the clitoris in women’s sexual pleasure/orgasm?

  • Meghan Murphy

    Well, to be fair, the problem with ‘woke’ is that it was popularized and coopted by mainstream media and nerdy white people (then, of course, way over used in uncool(unwoke!)/contrived ways until we all wanted to stab ourselves in the eye every time we heard it). Before white people got their hands on it, ‘woke’ was ag, imo 🙂

  • marv

    Or non clitoris owners

    • cday881@gmail.com

      That would explain our inability to find them.

  • Hanakai

    Anal sex, eh, it’s all fun and games until someone gets their bowel punctured or has an incurable disease transmitted.

    What Teen Vogue fails to do is to list, detail and explain all the medical problems that result from anal sex. Unlike the strong resilient tissues of the vagina, the tissues and lining of the anus, rectum and colon are delicate, prone to micro-tearing, making anal sex a disease vector, a fertile route for infection and disease transmission. There is a reason gay males have high rates of HIV, HCV (Hepatitis C), Hepatitis B, syphilis, HPV, chlamydia, gonorrhea of the rectum, all easily transmitted by anal sex. Notably, gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men are 17 times more likely to get anal cancer than heterosexual men. Anal cancer caused by HPV is what killed Farrah Fawcett.

    Ever heard of hemorrhoids? What do you suppose happens when one of those blood vessels is ruptured or torn during sexual activity? The result can be a bleeder that needs an emergency department visit, and long painful recovery. If you know anyone with a colostomy or ileostomy bag, where they poop into a bag through a hole in the abdomen, because their anal sphincter or anal muscles have been damaged or destroyed, you will perhaps be grateful that your own anal sphincter, a remarkable piece of natural bioengineering, a complex layering of muscles, is undamaged and is doing its job of holding the feces in. Anal muscles are not individually very strong and are easily stretched, torn, or weakened by anal penetration — this is why women doing anal in porn only have a career shelf life of three to six months before the anus is too damaged. Anal linings don’t produce natural lubricant for anal sex, and thus sustain some damage each and every time.

    Then there is anal prolapse, where the rectum flops outside of the body, prolapsed hemorrhoids, excessively bleeding hemorrhoids, anal warts. Lacking the natural lubrication the vagina has, anal tissues can rupture. If you have any of the following conditions, anal sex can aggravate them: Irritable bowel syndrome, Neuro-muscular disorders, Colitis, Crohn’s disease, Inflammation, Eating disorders like binging and purging.

    The anus is full of bacteria from the feces and that bacteria will cause urinary infections. E. coli is just one of the many bugs found in feces. Think of the lovely mixture of semen and feces, which will drip at will from the anus for 24 hours afterwards.

    Many women report disliking anal sex because IT HURTS and there is NO PLEASURE. Some say it is like pooping backwards. Men only have interest in the anus because it is perceived as a tight hole, porn propaganda has influenced them and because they want to degrade women. Some men decide they do not like anal after having to wash poop off their dicks. A recent study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine showed that girls are being coerced by boyfriends to have anal sex and the girls feel terrible because it’s not fun for them.

    If you love your body and care about your health and you want to live a long, vigorous, fit, active, healthy life, you will guard your anus and keep dicks out of it.

    What Teen Vogue and other cultural media outlets need to do is tell the truth about anal sex, including all the medical contraindications. Some photos from medical texts showing some of the complications in all their graphic glory would be helpful to the teen mind. Maybe Teen Vogue needs to be sued by a teen whose body was injured after engaging in anal sex based on the magazine’s exhortations and normalization of an unhealthful practice.

    • Yahmo Bethere

      Primaries and gynocologists are seeing increased numbers of girls/women with anal fissures.

      That is a painful condition with harsh treatment.

  • Hanakai

    Hey, lots of people enjoy heroin, too. But like anal sex, it is also not good for the health of the organism.

  • Zuzanna Smith

    Male and female are not “identities” that you can choose, they are biological realities of sex differentiation, do you understand how babies are made? Are the penis and testicles internal or external? The clitoris is a structure that wraps around the pelvis, it is a lot more internal than external. Educate yourself on female anatomy because it’s clear you are ignorant.

  • Torc87

    Um, are you really saying ‘ I did it but I hated it so All women hate it and shouldn’t do it? Cause it really sounds like that.

    You hated it. Ok, there is no reason for YOU to do it.

    Other women may like it. Their choice.

    Sounds way to much like forcing your experience on others.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Penis is male. Sorrynotsorry.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Your comment has been approved. Comments here are moderated, which means they don’t show up until a moderator approves each one, manually.

  • susannunes

    Receptive anal intercourse, plus the bathhouse culture which amplified the spread of the virus, was THE main transmission of HIV which became full blown AIDS in the 1980s and 1990s. It was a death sentence then. The gay community was absolutely decimated by the disease. You would think people these days would understand that history. HPV complicates it further because of its link to a variety of cancers and is far more common than HIV.

    (Even oral sex is risky these days because of HPV and its link to throat cancers.)

    Straight people should not be doing anal sex, and it isn’t necessary for sexual pleasure.

    I feel bad for young women today because of the saturation of online porn, which is nothing more or less than poison.

  • Meghan Murphy

    You mean you stopped reading at the headline because you don’t understand feminism or words?

  • Meghan Murphy

    Yes, because transwomen are male…

  • Meghan Murphy

    Can you please stop spamming the comment section with this idiotic comment? You are just talking about males and females.

    • McBain

      This is really interesting to me, most feminists of my generation at least, are openly pro-trans, I’ve been called a TERF myself for simply asking why purging TERFs from the Socialist Party was a thing

      Meanwhile, you go on alt-right boards and they’re less transphobic when posting anonymously. It’s really weird.

      • Meghan Murphy

        MRAs are totally on board with gender identity ideology and attacking feminists as TERFs, yes. Is this what you mean?

  • Meghan Murphy

    Transwomen exclude themselves from being women by being male.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Oh, did the ‘more going on’ happen to have to do with the clitoris? You know, the thing Teen Vogue neglected to include in their sex ed lesson?

  • Meghan Murphy
  • Meghan Murphy

    Bye creepazoid.

  • Meghan Murphy

    np

  • Meghan Murphy

    1) Why is biological sex transphobic?
    2) What is wrong with being born male or female?
    3) What do you think feminism is?
    4) How does patriarchy work?
    5) How is this article ‘homophobic’?
    6) How is this article ‘transphobic’?
    7) What does ‘gender essentialism’ mean?

  • Meghan Murphy

    But realistically, if a woman wants a chance at enjoying anal sex, the clitoris is going to have to be involved…

  • Meghan Murphy

    Yes, also that!Thank you.

  • Tweek Jones

    Promoting the anal rape of teen girls. Besides teens being underage,
    studies find that most girls are forced to do anal sex. You people make
    me sick.

  • Meghan Murphy

    You should really think about why, in order to be ‘trans accepting,’ we need to stop saying the word ‘woman’, and what the implications of that are.

  • wannabealot

    Firefly1399, the article did not say “vagina owner” it said “non-prostate owner.”

  • Mirror Maiden

    Trans-“women” are adult males and the name for that cohort is “men.” So trans bio-men are just that – men, not women.

  • Mirror Maiden

    Yet you posted as if unaware of both of those things. Of course you can’t get into gender identity as that is a debate facts will ensure you lose.

  • Zuzanna Smith

    Is there a reason that you are so adamant about defending a sex practice that is harmful to women? Do you not get that it is irresponsible, inappropriate and coercive to advertise anal sex to impressionable girls and young women in a magazine aimed at primarily teen girls who are already being pressured into sex boys see in porn?

  • calabasa

    Oh hey! Did you also try rape because your partner wanted to? Are you now enjoying the pleasures of giving and receiving that particular activity?

    You are SO empowered, girl! I envy you. If only I could spin coercion the way that you do.

  • Hekate Jayne

    That’s how manlogicks functions.

    “Penis be female! Uterus not real, it’s a social construct! Clitoris be transphobic! And Meghan Murphy is conservative! “

    • Cassandra

      LOL!!!

  • Hekate Jayne

    Being critical of an article in teen vogue about anal sex erases women?

    So thinking critically and asking questions erases women?

    No one is saying that you can’t have all of whatever kind of sex that you want. The fact that you think that is odd. Where does this article say that?

  • Hekate Jayne

    A hole is a hole is a hole! Amirite?

    Also, women should not be demanding orgasms! The pleasure should come from providing the hole!

    *this is how you sound. You have got to be a dude.

  • Wait, anal sex is “reproductive health care”?

  • Is the penis internal? Would you find any diagram of the male sexual reproductive system excluding the penis to be acceptable?

  • Helen Staniland

    A study of 130 teenagers found only one girl who had some pleasure out of it. Boys pressurising girls to try. Everyone expecting girls not to enjoy it.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/55862031/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/teen-anal-sex-study-unexpected-findings/#.WXN1e3R4Wf0

  • Meghan Murphy

    Yeah, I read Seventeen and, like YM (and Sassy!) when I was in Elementary School. When I was an older teenager, like 16 etc., I was reading the ‘adult’ magazines — Cosmo etc.

  • Hanakai

    Your parents must be so proud.

  • Hanakai

    Teaching your boys to stick it up the anal canals of girls and proud of it. We really are in the decadent stage of empire.

    Maybe they will get deadly E.coli infections from fecal matter. Karma.

  • blondein_tokyo

    Yes, facts are facts – so here are some facts for you.

    The word “phobia” isn’t a phoneme. “Phoneme” is a term used in phonology, and it means a distinct unit of sound. E.g., /d/ is a phoneme. If you really want to know, “phobia” is a noun meaning “intense fear”, and is often used as suffix on other nouns, like “homophobia” or “arachnophobia”, meaning “a fear of”. Which technically speaking, makes it an unbound morpheme. And by the way? The term used in linguistics for “words” is “lexis”. 🙂

    You see, I’m a linguist. A person who studies language. It happens to be my profession, in fact. That means I can say with some authority that what you said here is factually wrong. It’s factually wrong because words have meanings, and those meanings are generally agreed upon by the people who use them. If we didn’t generally agree on word meanings, we would have a very hard time communicating. This is why we have dictionaries – they are the authority on how words are currently being used in the culture, that is, the agreed-upon meaning. And guess what?

    trans·pho·bi·a
    ˌtranzˈfōbēə/
    noun
    noun: transphobia
    intense dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people.”more than 120 complaints concerning transphobia in the media were made”

    I know how big feminists are on being educated. You’re welcome. 🙂

    • Hanakai

      Of course I know what phoneme means. I only used the word here for educational purposes, to make people look it up and learn something, and to waste the time of the twisted trans-apologists and misogynists, who I suspected would fall for the bait.

      And seriously, if you are a linguist, then you should not be mangling the English language by calling people with penises ‘women’. People born with dicks and XY chromosomes are males. Duh.

      I just happen to be sane and very well-educated. The reality is that I have no fear of alleged trans-persons. Some of them I have treated have been quite pleasant company. But I know enough medicine, biology and psychology to know mental illness when it presents and the reality is that trans-ers are mentally ill. Anyone who truly thinks they are the other sex is delusional and that is a sign of mental illness. Anyone who hates themselves and their body to the point that they would undergo surgical mutilation of healthy tissue is mentally ill. WHO has classified sex dysphoria as a mental illness. It is also a new mental illness in that surgical trans-mutilations have only been around for about half a century, and that prior to that time the types who are trannies today were mostly male homosexuals, cross-dressers and transvestites, who understood that they were male.

      Now, all mentally ill people shoudl be treated with compassion and the best that modern psychiatry, psychology and medicine has to offer. Indeed, my approach of treating mental illness iwth psychotherapy and, if necessary, appropriate medication is far better for alleged trannies than the surgery and hormonal loading. You do understand that those who have undergone surgical sex mutilation commit suicide at very high rates, this because surgery did not treat their underlying mental illnesses. Many seek to undo the sex reassignment surgery. And the best long-term study shows great unhappiness, depression and mental illness ten years after surgery. But when you take someone who hates his body and help him to learn to love and accept himself, he becomes a happy humanoid, often a happy male homosexual humanoid.

      The real people who harm so-called trans-folk are the ones who defend mutilating surgery and sterilizing hormonal treatments and caricature as normal and healthy. We are in the decaying stage of empire, so it is unsurprising that so many people have lost their minds, bearings and all common sense. I, and the radical feminists here, remain among the sane ones.

    • FierceMild

      If words have meanings what’s the meaning of ‘woman’? You appear to think it means ‘feeling of a person in high heels.’

  • cday881@gmail.com

    Really, the article was homophobic? Was Ms. Murphy telling gay men not to engage in anal (and do boys read Teen Vogue)? Was she telling lesbians not to do anal? Wait, lesbians do anal? She was critiquing heterosexual sodomy. How is that homophobic?

  • Meghan Murphy

    Go away.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Actually, you can go fuck yourself. You’re banned.

  • Meghan Murphy

    My mom got me a subscription, hoping to draw me away from Seventeen and YM…

  • Meghan Murphy

    You sound like an MRA. Of course feminists care about more than one thing, including FGM.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Surely you don’t believe that the clitoris was left off this diagram out of concern from victims of FGM!??

  • Hekate Jayne

    So, according to you, 3 in 100 people are intersex.

    So, the 97 that are the sexually dimorphic norm are??????

    What is that proof of?

    If 3 out of 100 people are born without hands, does that mean that hands are a social construct? That the 97 aren’t the norm? That the 97 are “stumpphobic” for talking about their hands?

    Do you know that 97 is a way bigger number than 3?

    Nevermind. Common sense and factual reality don’t matter to anyone that thinks a penis is female. Because a dood told them so.

    • Hanakai

      Actually, these disorders of sexual development occur on average in about 1 in 10,000 births. Rather rare. See reference citation to National Institute of Health data in my earlier comment.

      Lily = a lying trans propagandist.

      • Hekate Jayne

        Yep.

        And intersex people have repeatedly asked for trans to stop standing on their backs and using them. But trans ignore their requests and feelings. Just like dudes do.

  • Hekate Jayne

    That medal better have very clear instructions. ……

    “Do not place in anus!”

    He loves sticking stuff up there. Apparently.

  • Cynthia Cooper

    It was a poorly written article. Important information was missing. And the author’s language propagated goofy ideas about human sexuality that deny the existence of male and female. I didn’t defend the article.

  • Cynthia Cooper

    You’re not alone.

  • radwonka

    Some men don’t have a penis (ie castration), yet this article didn’t erase it. So your point is invalid.

  • radwonka
  • radwonka

    “Or maybe she thinks, a

    la Dworkin, that all sex women have is coerced sex, i.e., rape. Sheesh.”

    Citation needed.

  • lk

    Awhile back some men’s magazine (GQ maybe?) had an article that was basically discussing that anal sex was so normal that it was okay to ask for it on the first date.

    Nope!

    There was a commenter on here who said something like if your man asks for anal, ask him if you can put on a strap-on and anally penetrate him.

    I think most men look at anal as just another way to dominate/degrade women..which is why so many of them don’t want to be on the receiving end.

    • Hanakai

      If you play it smart, you will never be with a man who asks for or demands anal. Seriously, instead of playing along with the hookup culture of pornified males, women would best investigate and gather information about a potential sex partner. You need to know the person well enough to like them or have positive affectionate feelings for them. If you are going to take off your clothes and put yourself in a vulnerable position, you ought to be able to talk to the dude about sex.

      For myself, no dude has a chance of seeing me naked unless I have first determined that he has no history of violence, does not own any guns, does not hunt or kill or abuse animals, has a reasonable sexual history free of disease, does not use porn, is not an alcoholic or addict, and is not mentally ill. I also have conversations about what is off limits and tell them if they ever use the b-word or c-word in referring to me or other women, they will be thrown out of my reality forever; and that my magnificently nature-designed anus is only for output and attempts to breach it will be met with a lawsuit.

      This is my practice and I have never been abused by an intimate partner, and actually, the men I have been with have been caring and skillful lovers, which in part has to do with them being older than Porn Generation males, and havign been around at a time when feminists were open about what men needed to do to please women. There are some reasonably decent men around, but you must screen them, as there are also many abusers, predators, pornheads, creeps, psychopaths, sexual deviants, etc.

      • radwonka

        “you must screen them, as there are also many abusers, predators, pornheads, creeps, psychopaths, sexual deviants, etc.”

        Ha, well, there are no men left then 😉

  • Cassandra

    NOBODY GIVES A SHIT IF YOU LIKE ANAL. WHY DOES THAT MATTER ONE FUCK?

  • lk

    “You’re hypersimplifying sexual biology.”

    No, Danielle is not over simplifying human sexual biology.

    It is a scientific fact that the human race is dimorphic–either clearly male or female. Yes, there are medical abnormalities that result in people being born intersex.
    But the existence of people born with a medical disorder does not change the facts.

  • Cassandra

    MISOGYNIST ASSHOLE alert!

    Seriously, your hatred of female people is beyond offensive. Please go fuck yourself.

  • lk

    Someone on here commented that the idea of women owning their bodies/owning their vaginas is a dangerous one b/c if a a vagina is a thing you own then it is a thing that can be sold and bought (through prostitution, girls being sold into marriages, pornography).

    The whole idea of owning your vagina fits into the whole sex-positive/pro-prostitution ideology..I.e, since I own my vagina I should be able to sell it or rent it out, just like I could my house or my car.

    But we really don’t own our bodies…we are our bodies, we exist in them.

    • FierceMild

      Exactly! It also implies that rape is a crime against property analogous to theft…or perhaps borrowing without permission.

  • Cassandra

    You can’t be homophobic and “transphobic” at the same time. Transgender is opposite reality world and it’s hateful and disgusting to expect other people to live in an opposite reality. You’re a real asshole by the way. Belch! I feel sick.

  • lk

    “That’s okay, though. My three nieces canceled their Vogue subscriptions all their own. It’s making a lot of noise with teenagers (and preteens) and thankfully they determined the ridiculousness of this article on their own. Getting prouder and prouder of this upcoming generation.”

    This makes me happy!! I’m glad that teen girls are questioning this and hitting teen vogue where it hurts: their subscription count and their pocket books.

    I work at a high school library and I order all the books, magazines & dvd’s…guess which magazine I will absolutely not be ordering for our library next year?

  • Cassandra

    Just one big NOPE on your comment. Just one big entire EFFING NOPE on trans ideology and anti-female terms like “TERF.” Just all the NOPE there is.

    Also:
    “First,Teen Vogue used the words “prostrate owner” and “non-prostrate owner”
    because there are women with prostrates, and men with vaginas…”

    pros·trate
    ˈprästrāt/
    adjective
    1.
    lying stretched out on the ground with one’s face downward.
    synonyms: prone, lying flat, lying down, stretched out, spread-eagled, sprawling, horizontal, recumbent; rareprocumbent
    “the prostrate figure on the ground”

    pros·tate
    ˈpräsˌtāt/
    noun
    a gland surrounding the neck of the bladder in male mammals and releasing prostatic fluid.

    Dictionaries are wonderful things, you see, for so, so many reasons.

    We simply do not agree with your beliefs because they are horse shit nonsense. We live in reality. No such thing as “cis.” Males have prostates. Females do not.

    Now FUCK OFF you misogynist troglodyte.

  • lk

    Haha,…good to know that I am a closed-minded, bigoted conservative because I acknowledge facts and don’t believe in some magical, universal female essence.

    Better get out my MAGA hat, my NRA membership and my Confederate flag.

    🙂

  • Cassandra

    Intersex has nothing to do with what the transgender cult is pushing. NOTHING.

  • Cassandra

    1991 called. It wants its girl power back.

  • radwonka

    Except if they enjoy critical thinking or radicalism! In this case, they must be shamed and degraded!

    • lk

      HAHA….the following things are wrong according to modern liberalism:
      1. Critiquing anything
      2. Asking questions
      3. Fact/objective truth
      4. Saying no
      5. Critical thinking

      Everything else is cool though!!!

  • Cassandra

    What is a “cis” woman? Why do you embrace such a hateful term, assigned to you by an ideology that’s patriarchy writ large?

    You are the one who sounds judgey, and nobody gives a shit if you like anal.

    • Hanakai

      Cassandra: “. . . nobody gives a shit if you like anal.”

      Great line! 🙂

      • Cassandra

        😉

  • Cassandra

    Is this where I come in and talk about how much I LOVE anal sex?

  • Cassandra

    Do you really not understand the issue?It was entirely focused on male pleasure and the fact that teens have heard about it doesn’t make it a good thing to publish an article about how to enjoy it. It’s fucking porn culture and it’s grooming girls to accommodate it.

    It was a graphic (literally) example of patriarchal violence against women trying to pass as something progressive by a misogynist asshole “writer” (Gigi) and her misogynist asshole male boss.

  • Cassandra

    We’re “erasing women’s sexual autonomy” by criticizing an article with a drawing that doesn’t include the clitoris?

    PRICELESS!

  • Cassandra

    As if Vogue gives a shit about FGM.

  • Cassandra

    That article is pro-trans, not pro science. Any article that uses the term “cisgender” is not credible.

  • Yahmo Bethere

    Concern? I’m sure FGM victims know that they are indeed, VICTIMS.

    No need to lie about what a woman looks like. If they don’t know what they’re supposed to look like, it’s high time they learn.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Or they could just write something responsible?

  • Meghan Murphy

    I do hope you find a way to process your internalized misogyny one day.

  • Minerva Conatus

    What is a woman?

    What is a man?

    Also, the word “TERF” is a slur, used by people who wish to police women’s thoughts. Please click on the link below to see the contexts in which people use it.

    https://terfisaslur.com/

  • Kris

    What exactly are you getting at with your argument that we are “hyper simplifying biology”? Do you want all of medicine and biology to redefine “male” and “female”? If so, what should the new parameters be? (keeping in mind that in science we don’t usually define a category by the outliers AND in order to define a biological category at all, the members must have something in common that is physically verifiable. And for the category to be meaningful, the shared characteristic should have significant consequences on bodily function, otherwise what’s the point of grouping these people together? )

    Or is the argument that because biology can be messy a small percentage of the time, we should scrap the biological categories of “male and female” altogether? Though if that’s the case, why would we keep the terms “man” and “woman” at all? What do the members of these categories have in common if not the traditional biological parameters that you reject?

    And what does the existence of chromosomal abnormalities have to do with anything anyway? Are you claiming those who identify as trans all have undiagnosed chromosomal abnormalities? Otherwise why bring it up?

  • Cassandra

    You poor thing. Brainwashed with AFTRA bullshit.
    Educate yourself in regard to reality: http://thenewbacklash.blogspot.com/

  • Morag999

    “And if they hate her after they read her, it’s because they love their sexism and misogyny.”

    Right. Funny/sad thing is, I’d bet that your average men’s rights activist has read more Dworkin (perhaps somewhere between a paragraph and a chapter) than your average please-call-me-cis polyamorous-positive don’t-you-erase-my-agency porn-lovin’ queer “feminist.” However, it makes no difference. Because both of these anti-woman paths lead to exactly the same, persistent lies about what Dworkin was actually saying …

  • radwonka

    Exactly!
    That’s the main difference between those “sex positive feminists” and real feminists: “sex positives” only focus on their feelings (and thus don’t want to end MVAW) whereas feminists prioritize victims.

    In fact, “sex positives”, don’t like concepts such as “victims” (which was replaced with the concept “agency”) or “socialization”. Which is why they see victims as colleteral damage and think that their “happy feelings” are more important.

    And you are right, their tone is subtly controlling (ie “your opinion hurts me, thus you should keep it for yourself, but I have the right to say whatever I want “) and manipulative (ie “if you openly disagree with me, then you are wrong and mean”). They rarely use logical arguments.

    Moreover, they are inconsistent (ie the “since I like it, don’t you dare saying anything bad about it” pseudo argument is only used when it suits *them*, they hate it when others use this argument, which proves that they don’t truly care about feelings or choices or what makes women happy, they just want patriarchal norms intact).

    And yes, the way they describe their preferences gives the impression that those who are different are inferior or something. I guess that they just despise women who don’t support male supremacy, go figure. Sadly their vile tactics (guilt tripping, personal attacks, grooming, etc) are enough to convince many women, especially young girls, that having boundaries is “wrong” and “conservative”.

  • OldPolarBear

    I was once reading and participating in a comment thread on Raw Story. I don’t remember the exact topic or even all the details of who said what, but somehow the usual Dworkin-bashing — she hated men, she hated sex, blah blah blah — was brought in. I said something positive, again, don’t remember exactly but I think I added that people should probably actually read at least some of her work before commenting about her.

    One commenter, a young woman (or at least “presenting” as that; she seemed real anyway) said that she had never bothered to read any Dworkin because any time she came up, the dudebros just reacted so negatively and yelled and raged and said all this stuff, because there just wasn’t any point. This reasoning just floored me. In a way, I can’t really blame her, because I’ve seen plenty of that reaction. But I thought, “well, that’ll show ’em.” I just couldn’t come up with a reasonable response at the time.

    • esuth

      Omg I remember a similar conversation that I observed on some long ago forum between a right wing men’s rights dude and a libfem. It was hilarious: both participants in a conversation about Andrea Dworkin admitted quite openly that they had never read her and didn’t need to. But somehow they came up with differing opinions!

  • Laura

    thanks for the article, #1 woke bae MM!
    (kidding)
    probably someone has already mentioned it, i’m late to comment here, but it’s always super gross to see these corporation$ capitalize on AAVE

  • Morag999

    Nah, I don’t believe that you’re wondering about this. I believe that you’re pretending to wonder and hoping that the slander will stick.

    I’m impressed, though, that you thought up a way to make this critique, which concerns the grooming of girls into sex acts they are too immature to even consider, about that monster, “white feminism.” How resourceful and creative.

  • Misanthropia

    I really think that women should dominate more. I’ve had sexual interactions online with men who would submit to me and we both would have a good time because what he and I liked was more based on mutuality, just with me doing the guiding and coordinating

  • OldPolarBear

    Sorry I’m a little late getting back to this. I think this comment is pretty reasonable and I pretty much have to agree with it. I’m not sure why you would think I would criticize it, but that’s fine. The 70s and early 80s were some wild times, maybe sexually liberating in some ways, especially for both straight and gay men and maybe somewhat, but not so much, for women. Things really did go overboard in a lot of ways. I suppose you might think I would be critical because citing the huge amounts of sexual activity would be victim-blamey? I can see that side of the argument, too, but really, I reiterate that things did go overboard.

    Also, the whole topic of alternative treatments for AIDS, and even alternative etiologies, is vast, fascinating and probably OT for this post, and perhaps even for this particular blog. I will just say that I’m not sure if I’ve heard of Cathcart, but I’m going to look him up. I read the New York Native throughout the 90s, and I’m familiar with a lot of the other non-conventional research and researchers on AIDS. Sad to say, that paper is no more, but there’s still plenty going on in that area.

    Thanks for your comment; once again, I’m glad to hear about Cathcart!

  • FierceMild

    why is this argument always trotted out as if it has anything to do with the trans craze? It doesn’t. Congenital heart defects occur one out of every 100 births http://www.childrensheartfoundation.org/about-chf/fact-sheets yet we do not redefine the function of that organ. Trans occurs about one in every 1000 births but you want to redefine orang function based on that? It. Does. Not. Make. Sense.

  • Omzig Online

    Is the Teen Vogue article what passes for “education” in your mind? Hate to point this out, bro, but the article didn’t even mention HIV.

  • Megan Marie Lang

    Oi this article is a trainwreck.
    a. It’s trans-exclusionary. Using terms like “penis owner” and “vagina owner” is an acknowledgment that many “penis owners” do not consider themselves male, and many “vagina owners” do not consider themselves female.
    b. Many vagina owners do in fact enjoy receiving anal, myself being one of them.
    Yes it can be uncomfortable at first, because it feels alien, but once properly lubed and relaxed, it’s very enjoyable.
    (Oh, and women CAN orgasm from anal, being that the rectum is adjacent to the g-spot. Not to mention that the anus is full of nerve endings in both male and female anatomy that make anal pleasurable. FYI)
    c. Paints all males as “manipulative and coercing”, in which the partner I tried anal with was very understanding and didn’t pressure me at all. I know many men like this.
    d. The Teen Vogue article does talk about consent and communication.
    e. YOU CAN GET PREGNANT FROM ANAL SEX. TRUST ME ON THIS.

    The only thing I agree with is the diagram that doesn’t show the clitoris. That’s kinda ridic.

    • Hanakai

      Oh look, another ignorant protagonist of women offering up their anuses to males for use and abuse who knows nothing of anatomy. Duh, no the rectum is not adjacent to the G-spot, as the G-spot is on the anterior wall of the vagina. As for the nerve endings in the rectum, the pudendal nerve and rectal nerve plexus, the inferior rectal nerve and interestingly these nerves do not go to the pleasure centers of the brain but are sensory detectors of when the rectum is full of feces and these nerves signal the anal sphincter to remain closed until the human can find a toilet. When these nerves are damaged in anal sex, the person becomes incontinent and leaks feces.

      And no, anal sex does not typically lead to pregnancy. In order for pregnancy to result, sperm needs to travel up the vagina and into and through the Fallopian tubes where fertilization occurs. There is, however, a very tiny chance of impregnation (which medical scientists estimate to be 1 in a million) from anal sex if during ejaculation the semen, which is full of viable sperm, is spilled near the vaginal opening, or if the women has a rare structural defect called a cloacal malformation.

      You are the trainwreck, and an ignorant one at that, proselytizing in favor of a sexual practice that can lead to female fecal incontinence and many medical problems, even though you appear entirely ignorant of female physiology, neurophysiology or sexuality.

      It seems Millennials are the stupidest generation ever, willing to believe absurdities and incapable of listening to the wisdom of their own bodies. The degenerative stage of empire.

      • Megan Marie Lang

        May I politely suggest that you read the fucking Wikipedia page on anal sex before you spew this flavor of bullshit?
        Here is the link, for your convenience:
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex

        • Cassandra

          Wikipedia?!
          LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

          holy shit

          • Megan Marie Lang

            Yes, Wikipedia is a great place to start, for somebody who has no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

          • Hekate Jayne

            Wikipedia and teen vogue.

            All of the butt wisdom a liberal lady will ever need. Amirite.

          • Zuzanna Smith

            Butt seks…because you’re worth it.

        • Melanie

          The Wikipedia article suggests
          that the pain associated with anal sex is largely psychological. An old mysoginist classic suggesting women just need to open our minds, relax and stop being such hung up prudes. This coercion is exactly what we’re talking about. It needs to be mentioned in any article about anal sex because it’s a real and widespread behavior impacting the health and well being of girls and women.

          • Megan Marie Lang

            If you looked into the context of that statement, you would know that it was talking about gay/bi men.
            But, since you brought up that, yes, relaxing while anal is the key to enjoying it. No, really. And part of being able to relax coincides with mutual consent, communication, and safety. If none of those are there, then that’s a no go on the butt stuff.
            No one is telling you you Have relax and enjoy it when you don’t want to have anal or are hesitant about it.
            Seriously. In any context, hesitation means no. Maybe means no. No means no.

          • FierceMild

            Here is an article from a site which is not wikipedia. http://www.nature.com/ajg/journal/v111/n2/full/ajg2015419a.html It is the american journal of gastroenterology. Those unawake ignoramuses think that even occasional anal sex will lead to what they term “fecal incontinence.” That means that shoving things up your ass will lead to anal leakage, even if you’re totes relaxed the whole time. Damn butt-doctor-fun-ruining-white-feminist-TERF-homophobic-transphobes if they’d wiki-ed it they could have learned that “butt play” is completely harmless.

    • Cassandra

      Oh super! Another handmaiden has arrived to talk nonsense and share her love for anal sex!

      You.
      Are.
      Boring.

    • FierceMild

      Many monkeys might consider themselves kangaroos…they’re still
      Monkeys.

    • radwonka

      lmao at you liking your own comment, you sounded patronizing, but it confirms your narcissism

      “Paints all males as “manipulative and coercing”, in which the partner I
      tried anal with was very understanding and didn’t pressure me at all. I
      know many men like this”

      lool, They didn’t force you because you wanted it, so you made things easier for them. That’s all. Things are quite different for women who refuse to be used by men.

  • Megan Marie Lang

    Umm, it talks about butt plugs. Which is considered anal prep.

  • Meghan Murphy

    I don’t think anyone here is ‘feigning concern about cis men’…

  • Meghan Murphy

    What the the ovary, uterus, or fallopian tube have to do with anal sex?

  • Meghan Murphy

    blondein_tokyo has been banned, ftr.

    • Danielle Matheson

      Thank you.

  • Danielle Matheson

    Thank you.

  • will

    This blog post does not assert that Teen Vogue should not publish an article on anal sex, dummy. It asserts that Teen Vogue should publish accurate health advice that will protect girls, and that it should not publish coercive and gas lighting pieces like this one that serves to endanger them.

    Read better.

  • will

    “Sex Positive” = “Sex Mandatory”

    I had a similar experience when I was 14 with much older man. I am only now, decades later, able to reckon the cost of his act, the effect of ripping away my potential for sexual pleasure, my understanding that I could set boundaries, my ability to feel some small sense of self-worth. I agree that the number of girls and young women being anally raped is on the rise because of pornography and I am disgusted by women who crow and strut and preen about how they love anal. Whether they do or they do not feel pleasure does not change the fact of the physical and psychological risks of anal penetration. This boasting about how happy and they are to submit, how aroused they are by that risk (and by the shame and humiliation that is culturally attached to being fucked anally) is nothing more than joining the patriarchal mob of gas-lighters who keep women physically and mentally unable to fully function in this world.

  • will

    “Many heterosexual men want women to have the same sexual proclivities as male homosexuals.”

    Yes. Exactly this. A young woman who impersonates the sexual attitudes of a promiscuous man is the very definition of a “liberated woman” in the parlance of Libberish.

  • will

    Great comment.

  • will

    Yes, I’m sure the male approval will more than compensate for the anal prolapse. (I just got an image of blondein_tokyo with her colon hanging out of her butt saying “They like me! They really really like me!”

    Sorry: I know that’s a horrible image, but it is a horrible physically real trend that she and others here are promoting.

  • will

    Agreed. This Cartesian, dissociated language is at the basis of all of this nonsense: the notion that the self and the body are distinct entities. Sure fits nicely with commodity capitalism though.

    • lk

      It fits in perfectly with capitalism…but the idea of owning one’s body seems to be one that modern feminism is all about.

      Like, I rarely see articles where men say things like “I own my penis or I own my sexuality.”

      But I feel like you frequently see this said by females…especially when it comes to sex work: doing porn, posing nude, stripping, prostitution etc…

  • will

    Good grief you sound narcissistic as hell.

  • will

    Can I get one on Amazon?

  • BelowTheBush

    Actually all women have nerve endings around and inside their anus that can be stimulated, leading to sexual pleasure. The concentration of nerves is different for every single woman, hence why some enjoy it and some don’t. Educate yourself before you criticise others too heavily

    • Hanakai

      No, the neuroanatomy of the anus is the same in pretty much everyone, the concentration of nerves is not different for every women. Duh, the nerves are the same, they are even names for each one. The anal nerves are involved in the defecation function, perceiving when the colon is full, when it is time to defecate, when to keep the anal sphincter consciously closed, when to keep the anal sphincter unconsciously closed.

      Enjoyment has more to do with what is in the brain than by what is in the poop chute. The more a woman embraces her oppression and the ideology of male supremacy, the more she will convince herself that male use of her asshole is OK.

      I have never met a 60 or 70 year old woman who wears adult diapers and has fecal incontinence as a result of anal sex damage who told me how enjoyable anal sex was. They all say, to a woman, that they wish it had never been done to them.

  • Lily

    I base my numbers on information from the Intersex Society of North America, which uses a more broad definition of intersex then the NIH. You can read a little bit about their reasoning here: http://www.isna.org/faq/printable

    And to answer the slew of questions, I bring this up because an absolutist insistance on a partially correct concept does the actual science a disservice. And no, to answer the question, I do not think every trans person has chromosomal abnormalities, merely that there’s such a wide range of variation in what we consider biological sex that I don’t see any problems with the claims that trans men and women make. The biology is complex enough I believe a biological cause could be found.

    • Hanakai

      I prefer to get my facts from reputed scientific and medical sources, you know, journals with peer-reviewed research, instead of from propaganda organizations.

      I and the scientific community will stand by the numbers I cited. And seriously, form what you have written, your understanding of human genetics indicates that you did not even take high school level biology and that you really do not get the complexities of Disorders of Sexual Development. Do you know what an allele is, the difference between a haploid and diploid cell, what RNA transciption entails, how genetic disorders occur? No evidence of that.

      So-called transexuality is a mental illness.

  • Hekate Jayne

    So you brought up FGM in a feminist space just because you get an erection from reminding women that males enjoy mutilating us?

    So, so edgy and original, little dude.

  • dandelionseed

    Yes. One of my dearest friends had a daughter with XO chromosomes. It’s called Turner’s Syndrome. Her daughter — yes, she was female, because she lacked a Y chromosome — experienced health crises all her life until she died in front of her mother at the ripe old age of 17 of a dissecting aorta, because cardiac issues are one of the major complications of Turner’s Syndrome. In fact, today is the anniversary of her death, so I’m not feeling particularly generous to scientific illiterates who spout text you’ve copied off the internet and don’t comprehend at all. Intersex conditions can be fraught, expensive, and harrowing issues, and the Turner Syndrome community, at least, would sincerely appreciate you not coopting their health issues. They have bigger issues, like keeping their daughters alive. And no, the percentage of people born with disorders of sexual development is nowhere near 3%. Try talking to a geneticist.

  • Hanakai

    This is totally Orwellian Newspeak. Up is down, war is peace, male is female.

    You appear entirely out of contact with reality. Please seek treatment.

  • Omzig Online

    Lots of GROWN WOMEN enjoy anal sex, which is fine for them. But the target audience for the Teen Vogue article was CHILDREN aged 11 through 17. That means that a vast portion of their audience is literaly too young to consent to sex of any kind, let alone anal. It also means that giving instructions for how perform or submit to anal sex is not only harmful, but probably illegal. Gender politics notwithstanding, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Teen Vogue publishers and the its author were sued for this.
    I didn’t realize the sodomy of children was funny to you. Is that what you meant by “get a sense of humor”?

  • Hanakai

    I think generally you may be correct. But apparently a large number of Western and Japanese men travel to Thailand, Cambodia and other places to indulge their fetishes. And bring infections back home.

  • polina

    They have twisted the meaning of “gender essentialism” too. http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/03/trans-people-gender-essentialism/

  • Omzig Online

    Then you must be quite disappointed in the Teen Vogue article for not mentioning these very important facts about anal sex and personal hygiene!
    1) It’s not exactly common knowledge for teens, who are still learning about their bodies.
    2) Teens “consent” to extremely dangerous and harmful behaviors all the time. An understanding about adolescent psychology would have helped Gigi Engles do a much, much better job with her journalism with regards to her flimsy, half-assed discussion about consent.
    3) If you had a daughter, you would need a much better grasp on the facts than you do now. Telling a 13 year old to just use condoms and lube is pretty inadequate, and criminally neglectful. How about mentioning it’s relationship to rectal prolapse, anal cancer, HIV, and fecal incontinance? That seems like it should have been discussed in the Teen Vogue article, too.
    4) If you “majored in nursing” you would’ve already known these things.

    • Megan Marie Lang

      I should hope that as a parent, seeings how you feel so strongly about this, you would talk to your child about this. It’s not Teen Vogues job to parent your children. And if I had a 13 year old, that’s exactly what I would do.

  • Omzig Online

    You are also incorrect about their target audience.

    https://ischoolweiser.wordpress.com/other-media/teen-vogue-magazine/

    • Megan Marie Lang

      “Reading level: grades 8 and up”.
      Umm, I believe that’s about the 13-14 age range, so if I was off, it was only by a year.

  • Cassandra

    You *are* a handmaiden. It’s not at all astounding to compare you to one. You are serving patriarchy with everything that comes out of your mouth.

    I will continue to call myself a feminist because I actually am one, just not the fun kind.

    • Megan Marie Lang

      Explain exactly how I’m serving the patriarchy by using my own body autonomy to make informed consensual choices about my sexuality? I suppose any time you consent to let a man penetrate, that’s considered “serving the patriarchy”?

  • lk

    So performing anal sex on you is great, but you performing anal on him is disgusting?!

    Totally makes sense….

    Guys like to claim that they want to try new sexual things to add spice to the bedroom and etc. But so many times, the things they want to try are about dominating women (anal/bdsm), violating women’s boundaries or just their own pleasure (like ffm threesomes). It’s not about mutual sexual enjoyment or some desire to bring their female partner pleasure.

    “I thought that he was manipulative because he didn’t listen to what i had to say and kinda wanted me to force myself to “like it” just because some women like it.”

    God, guys are so predictable…do they all have the same tricks?
    I dated a guy who was trying to pressure me into sex and said something to me like : “But my last girlfriend had sex with me on the first date.”

    I remember thinking what the hell does that have to do with me? and I just said “Then why don’t you go have sex with her?”

    Do they think all women are exactly the same? Just because another woman did certain sexual things for you does not obligate other women to do the same

  • radwonka

    “you need both, desperately”

    “You”? Who is “you”? and why “desperately”? Cuz I don’t need a stupid article grooming little girls into anal.

    >says that we shouldnt be critical because some women enjoy anal
    >speaks for everyone

    pick one.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Are you asking if I believe patriarchy oppresses women based on sex, that ‘male’ and ‘female’ are real biological categories, and that ‘gender’ is not innate or a personal choice? If so, yes.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Ha. I am called TERF by anti-feminist men constantly. They are thrilled at this new, approved way to attack feminists/women.

    Who do you think these men are, for example? Feminists? https://twitter.com/MeghanEMurphy/status/816114249181237248

  • Meghan Murphy

    Seriously.

  • Meghan Murphy

    1) I hope you are attempting something near sarcasm?
    2) Most of the clitoris is internal, not external.

  • Meghan Murphy

    You’re a moron.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Ah yes, “get over yourself” is always a convincing response to feminist analysis, which is notoriously self-centered, as we all know.

    Speaking of heteronormative, anal sex is *for* men. Women don’t have dicks. Seeing as this article was aimed primarily at young women and girls, not men, it indeed was heteronormative.

    • Michelle Lee-Reid

      Seeing as they don’t check your anatomy before you are allowed to open the magazine or click the article, not only young women and girls are reading it. The magazine is marketed as being for girls and young women, but you know (as the author does) that boys and young men are most likely reading it. Maybe since I read the article online I saw it as applicable to both male and female. And, on that note, some trans women and girls do have penises if they have not had surgery yet.

      • Cassandra

        OMG the gender zombies have eaten your every brain cell.

      • Emma

        Girls don’t have penises

        • Michelle Lee-Reid

          A trans woman or girl will still have a penis if she has not had reconstructive surgery yet.

          • Meghan Murphy

            Because they are male…

    • Ezzy666

      The same can be said about vaginal sex

      • Meghan Murphy

        And?

  • Meghan Murphy

    Hanakai is well aware that sex and gender are not the same. Indeed, Grace seems not to understand basic about biological sex.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Can you please stop pretending to ‘school’ women who understand that sex = biology, and gender = sexist stereotypes people are socialized into about what sex and gender are?

  • Wren

    Are you kidding? Are you actually going to tell your daughters that ANAL sex is a good choice?? If so, you should not have children. Sorry, but it is grossly irresponsible. Please consult your family physician about this.

    • Michelle Lee-Reid

      I have two daughters, 18 and 21. We have talked about anal sex as well as other types of sex and I’ve said that it is their choice whether or not they want to try it, but if they do to go slowly, use a lot of lube, and do it with someone they trust. Also, we’ve talked about the health issues that can stem from all kinds of sex. I want them to have the facts and then to make informed decisions. I empower my daughters to make intelligent, informed, and thoughtful choices. You would prefer they they stay uninformed which would place them in the way of becoming victims or engaging in things they would regret later. I want my daughters to make choices based on science and fact, not by listening to hysterical people that don’t know what they’re talking about, or by watching porn or listening to not-facts from their friends. I don’t enjoy anal sex, but I don’t make that decision for others–that it their choice.

      • Cassandra

        “You would prefer they they stay uninformed which would place them in the way of becoming victims or engaging in things they would regret later.”

        Where do you get the idea that we prefer girls stay uninformed? How could you possibly draw that conclusion? The Vogue article is a perfect example of what being uninformed *is.* It was ignorant and irresponsible on so many levels. You may think you’re “empowering” your daughters (and thumbs up for knowing that porn is no good), but defending what Vogue did is not a way to empower them.

        “I want my daughters to make choices based on science and fact, not by listening to hysterical people that don’t know what they’re talking about…”

        How can you say you support science and fact when you say things like this (upthread): “And, on that note, some trans women and girls do have penises if they have not had surgery yet.”

        Do you not see how contradictory these two thoughts are? You’re “empowering” your daughters to read Vogue magazine articles that aren’t educational at all, and “empowering” your daughters by buying into the misogynist gas lighting that is trans and identity politics? How can you not see what all this does to women as a class? Why are you so dedicated to supporting predatory grooming and a position that says we can’t even define ourselves—that female has no meaning except as an identity?

        This comments section is full of incredibly well educated women, some of whom are health care professionals; we actually do know what we’re talking about, and we simply see that the emperor is naked, whether incarnated as an emperor wagging his lady dick or as a piece of human filth like Phillip Picardi playing the role of the archetypal heterosexual emperor by hiring a handmaiden to do the patriarchy’s dirty work of grooming impressionable young girls to be open to something they may not want to be open to. And there’s nothing wrong with not being open to sex. Nothing. We don’t think sex is bad in and of itself, which is what you and your ilk seem to believe. We simply know how sex is used. We know that it’s via our biological sex and the fact that under the current regime we are *still* the sex class that we are fucked over royally 24/7.

        I mean seriously, what gives with your conclusion that we’re hysterical people who don’t know what they’re talking about?

        We aren’t hysterical; we are awake. We aren’t conservative; we’re actually light years ahead of where liberals currently are, which is lined up right next to the same old hateful patriarchy but now trussed up in sexy butt sex articles.

        We want a world where females are liberated from these things; free to do them or free to *not* do them, and right now that really isn’t the case, no matter how many times the words “choice” and “agency” are trotted out.

        We are the true progressives.
        You — are not.

  • Wren

    omg, please spell academic correctly.
    I think you are incredibly young and out of your element.

    • Megan Marie Lang

      *academic. Excuse my spelling.
      And just because I am young, doesn’t mean I am out of my element. I’ve spent countless hours reading and studying, listening to people who are much smarter than I am. Don’t take me for stupid.

      • FierceMild

        Reading wikipedia and studying how you feel with a dick up your butt does not an ‘expert’ make (although it will lead to some, ahem, extension). You probably haven’t even finished developing your prefrontal cortex. You should go work on that. Quietly.

  • Megan Marie Lang

    OK. You’re delusional.

    • Meghan Murphy

      You’re on thin ice, Megan.

  • Wren

    She perfectly illustrates how SJWs embrace ideology over critical intelligence. Or, honestly, any intelligence at all.

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    You need to check your facts. ICD-11 (International Classification of Diseases) and the Lancet have both said that transgender identity is NOT a mental illness. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-transgender-mental-illness-classification-20160729-story.html
    I would trust psychiatrists to know the facts rather than a bigoted person who insults others.

  • Wren

    You are not educating and empowering young women. You are not doing that at all. Your apology is utterly patronizing.

  • Wren

    “When I dated, I found that with some dudes, it was like they just wanted the challenge of breaking down a woman that they saw as being independent”

    Oh, I know that story, lol.

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    the term “phobia” contains 5 phonemes, it isn’t a phoneme. And transwomen have penises and belong in women’s spaces because they are women. Why are you so threatened by that? Trans people are NOT mentally ill. Fact: ICD-11 does not classify transgender identity as a mental disorder. Get educated. And, yes, you are trans-phobic. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-transgender-mental-illness-classification-20160729-story.html

    • Meghan Murphy

      What is a woman?

  • Megan Marie Lang

    I’m very sorry women have had shitty experiences with sex and consent. I’m not erasing those women.
    You, however are erasing women who feel empowered to use their body autonomy for their own benefit.
    You seem to think women who consent to men are at fault, that somehow if a group of women consent to acts like “anal sex”, that every woman will be expected and coerced to do the same. That’s the farthest from the truth. That problem lies with men who don’t want to take no for an answer.
    I’m not your enemy. I’m on your side. But when you tear down other women because you disagree with their opinion, that’s when you cross the line.

    • Hekate Jayne

      Nope.

      When you say things like “some women have dicks”, you are not on our side.

      How many of us have been raped or sexually assaulted and begged to have private spaces without a dick? Only to have women like you run to the defense of the “penis haver” (MALE)?

      How many times have we been called transphobic or bigots because we want to go into a restroom and know that there’s not a “penis haver”(MALE) in there?

      And how many times have you, and women like you, dismissed our feelings, wants, needs, in defense of fucking males?

      Every week in my area, there are males in restrooms, taking pictures or recording women and girls, and you legally put them there. Because what we wanted did not matter.

      No. You are not on our side. Do yourself a Google and take a look at what males have been doing because of YOU. Especially when they insist on using locker rooms and uncovering their dick, because telling them to not expose themselves to little girls is unfair because their dick is a “ladydick.”

      And it’s on you. You didn’t side with women. And that’s fine, you don’t have to. But you don’t get to say that you are on our side.

      We all know whose side you are on. And it ain’t ours.

  • Meghan Murphy

    (Does it surprise you that NinjaCate promulgated the ‘white feminism’ myth to attack radical feminists? https://www.cate-young.com/battymamzelle/2014/01/This-Is-What-I-Mean-When-I-Say-White-Feminism.html)

    • Hekate Jayne

      Something is vaguely sinister about FGM being brought up here. Twice. By 2 different males.

      It almost seems like we should be grateful that it’s not on the diagram. Like we are lucky that we are permitted by Western males to have our clitoris. And how privileged we are that they don’t decide to cut us.

      Because it would be their decision.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Oh buddy. You’re pretty confused, eh?

    Here’s a question for ya: what is radical feminism?

    After you answer this question, perhaps you can explain/show how men who hate feminism are the same as feminists.

  • Meghan Murphy

    You still haven’t defined ‘woman.’ i.e. what is it the human is identifying with when they identify as a ‘woman.’

  • Meghan Murphy

    So you don’t know, then?

  • Hanakai

    A lot that was spread about Bundy was a myth and not fact. He was not particularly intelligent. The news media kept calling him a law student, but did nor report that he rarely went to class and that he flunked out in his first semester. That he got away as long as he did was more due to police ineptness and incompetence than Bundy’s skill and intelligence.

    Bundy got his victims to go with him not because he was so smart and charming, but because his victims were not sufficiently suspicious, because women have been socialized to go along with men, to be polite, to not suspect them of being criminals. Bundy would use crutches or an arm sling to pretend to be disabled and ask women to help him. He was good at picking victims, who were often drunk or depressed, he could see they would not be fighters. Or he attacked sleeping women. Or picked girls, 12-year-olds, too small to fight. Bundy did not fool the court psychiatrists, not for a minute.

    When someone is a psychopath or a sexual sadist, there are always signs. The will wear a mask of normalcy, but if you pay attention, you can see behind the mask. But if your mind is impaired by drink or drugs, or a lifetime of numbing yourself to the prompting of your intuitive mind and innate bodily fear response, then you will miss the signs. And the women who are most suspicious of males seem best able to size them up.

    • Melanie

      “He was good at picking victims, who were often drunk or depressed, he
      could see they would not be fighters. Or he attacked sleeping women. Or
      picked girls, 12-year-olds, too small to fight”.

      Yes. His crimes had nothing to do with his victim’s ability to read him. You can’t protect yourself from male violence by ‘reading’ men. You can teach girls and women common red flags as a means of self defense, but as I said these are not always obvious and there are many variables that can impact your judgement or whether or not a man will choose to be violent. Violence can happen to any one of us, not because of our poor judgement, lack of knowledge or trauma symptoms, but because some men are violent. There’s no fool proof way for you to pick them out.

  • Omzig Online

    That’s funny, I don’t think I said anything like that. Who said I’m “talking only about the dangers of anal sex”? In fact, I think I’ve said that kids need comprehensive health/ sex education, which is the exact opposite of selective. That’s ok, though, if you misread something. People tend to come to this website a lot to beat up a straw-feminist, I’ve noticed. Ha, ha!

    But seriously, did you read the Teen Vogue article? Didn’t you think it was a least a *teensy-weensy* bit odd that they didn’t mention even ONE single complication of anal sex? Not exactly comprehensive, was it? You know, for an article that touts itself as a “What you need to know” guide to anal.

    But great job taking on sex-ed with your kids! I’m sure they’re much better off because of it. By the way, did your “birds and the bees” talk with your kids include a two page soliloquy extolling the virtues of funky butt lovin’? No?? I didn’t think so. Then what are you really here to complain about?

  • Omzig Online

    Are you saying that Teen Vogue’s anal sex article was “educational”? Is that what passes for an informative article in your mind? Literally anyone with a child’s reading comprehension can pick up a Teen Vogue, but please keep in mind their target audience is girls 12 to 17 years old.
    I think you should go back and read my comments again. Take your time, there’s no rush. Bring a better argument next time. Also, you may wish to consider your use of the word “empowerment,” and how that applies to children being groomed for anal sex.

  • Hekate Jayne

    So you have talked to some people and read Wikipedia and teen vogue????

    I await your expert pamphlet with great anticipation. Because you are so very obviously an expert.

  • Hekate Jayne

    Maybe you could have a go at the male religions that force FGM onto girls?

    Oh, that’s right. You are just another dude that cares nothing about FGM, except for when he can use it as a cudgel towards women.

    FYI, “some cultures” is not the agent for using FGM as a forcible torture to control little girls. It’s MALES. MALES torture and disfigure girls.

    Also, it’s GIRLS, not vagina havers.

    Congrats! You have managed to fit lots of misogyny and sexism into 2 sentences, while erasing GIRLS and pretending that “cultures” are evil. You might want to see if there’s an award or something available for that kind of thing, you raging dickhead.

  • Hekate Jayne

    Lol. I just shot coffee out my nose.

  • Hekate Jayne

    ” I think it’s unfair to put the burden of avoiding violence on our shoulders, since I don’t think I’ve ever met any woman who’s succeeding in living an abuse free life.
    ……….but the reality is that boundaries are nearly defenseless against a man intent on getting his way whether by brute force or mental stealth.”

    Exactly. Otherwise, we get very close to “but she should have known.”

    It is NEVER on the victim.

  • Melanie

    You ask them about how they treat their sexual partners? And you think you always get an honest answer? The fact is that there’s plenty of evidence posted by other commenters here to show that this is not the case for a significant number of women and teenage girls who are having to deal with disrespect, harassment and sexual coercion from men who’ve been influenced by pornography to want anal sex. it’s even considered a trophy by some men to get their girlfriends to submit. Something to brag about with their friends. This is a real thing effecting girls and women in particular. So it should be addressed honestly in any article claiming to give comprehensive education about anal sex.

  • Amy

    Well there are several more styles than those 2, which perfectly illustrates your lack of knowledge. When you look at this topic from all perspectives and can recognise the bias in things like Wikipedia, I believe one day you can understand why anal sex is something women are bullied into, hopefully one day soon, before you have life long complications from anal sex. We do care about your health (all women’s health in fact). That’s why the article by a naive journalist ( NOT a medical professional) is so upsetting.

  • Melanie

    You mean we should educate our young men not to sexually coerce, harass and rape women.

  • Melanie

    I think I’m a bit too old to understand how sexual interactions online work. But I imagine it’s a lot easier to demand what you want from a man online than it is if he’s in the room with you. The physical presence of a man can be enough to make a woman less able to assert her boundaries or express her desires. For a teenager or younger woman, even more so. Of course it depends on the person but in general men are the ones who dominate, coerce and generally get what they want because they have the physical and social power to do it. It’s disappointing that supposed sex educators are conveniently avoiding this fact, especially in regards to anal sex where it’s well known that a lot of women are coerced into it by men influenced by pornography.

  • Melanie

    That’s not science. it’s pseudo-science based in the following idea from the article – “Transgender individuals are those who identify with a gender that differs from their assigned sex”. Please explain what this means without using sexist stereotypes and roles that are harmful to girls and women.

  • FierceMild

    Grace can speak for herself…unless it makes you feel superior to speak for her?

    And you’re crediting the trans movement and its supporters with far more rationality then they actually have. They insist that sex, not just gender, is a social construct. That’s why I framed my illustration of how mammals reproduce the way I did. I’m making the point that we all understand what sex is and how reproduction works. If you find that condescending I can only assume you haven’t engaged with trans activists before.

  • FierceMild

    What’s a woman?

  • FierceMild

    Agree. I answered that way because people seem to be under the impression that their own personal buttholes are being, I don’t know, surveiled or something. I’m trying to get the talk off individual rectums and the tingles they bestow and onto the facts of the case in question.

  • Melanie

    Transgender is not based in science. It’s based in identifying with the sex stereotypes and gender roles typically associated with each sex. That’s both the medical and legal definition. Meanwhile, science at all levels tells us that despite some rare anomalies human beings are either male or female.

  • Meghan Murphy

    If feminism is turning you off of feminism, you are not a feminist.

  • melissa

    “A woman is a human being who identifies, either by genitalia or identity, as a woman.” is a tautological,circular and meaningless statement. It leaves you none the wiser about what a “woman” actually is. If you can’t clearly define or explain what constitutes being a woman in the first place, the claim of “identifying” as one becomes unintelligible.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f03b7ef706d97b5df48f895b766c8d61440939679dfafbe487498c5752eb530.png

    • Melanie

      That graphic is brilliant. 😛

  • radwonka

    Ha, I knew that religious were hypocrites (religious men and atheists men watch the same kind of porn), but this is really awful!
    “muslimah sex manual” or more like “how to use God to force women to have porn sex”

    The world is sick, women can’t even trust religions or atheists. Everything is made to manipulate us smh

  • Hanakai

    Jeeze, learn some anatomy. There is no clitoris in or near the anus. I repeat: There is no clitoris in or near the anus. A button-like structure at the opening of the vagina, the clitoris has something of the shape of a wishbone with two “legs” that extend a couple of inches into the vagina, connecting to the G-spot on the anterior wall of the vagina.

    You have no facts. Please go away and take your ignorance with you.

  • Hanakai

    No. The clitoris is nowhere near the anus, unless you are a mutant and freak of nature.

    The clitoris is a button-like structure at the opening of the vagina and it has two arms that extend into the vagina.

    Nature gave you an anus and anal sphincter as a method and control for the process of eliminating feces. If it is your center for sexual activity, you are a coprophiliac. Look it up.

  • Tobysgirl

    This is an excellent comment, but I would point out that the medical community has already lost a lot of credibility with a number of women. Take a glance at Stop The Thyroid Madness, especially the doctors’ wall of shame. From what I have seen of therapists, I do not have a good opinion of them, either. Our foster daughter’s MSW therapist was emotionally needy of this unfortunate child and even tried to make me jealous of her (I don’t do jealousy). My husband has had several therapists, only one of whom seemed not to be burdened with immature emotions himself. (My husband is very articulate and good at hornswoggling therapists who seem all too ready to be hornswoggled.)
    That said, I appreciate the mature and sensible tone you take, and the website of professionals concerned about this trans psychosis also seems responsible. It’s good to know there are therapists who are NOT enablers out there.

  • Tobysgirl

    If you didn’t know this was a radical feminist publication and had never heard of Feminist Current, that means you are a troll who goes about googling anal sex. I figured out what you people were when I wrote a letter to my local paper about the Confederate flag (soldiers warring under that flag killed many men from Maine) being flown in Maine, and got all these comments from people who obviously spend their days googling Confederate flag. You spend your days googling anal sex — I’m not sure which is more pathetic. And I’m guessing you’re a guy.

    • Megan

      Wowza. No. I am absolutely not a guy, and I followed a link from a feminist page. No troll under the bridge here.

  • Tobysgirl

    Trained psychologists are not a good example. It’s very easy to fool so-called professionals if you know what you are doing. That’s one of the major points of so much “education”: separate people from their actual power to observe and sense what someone is about, and fill their heads with jargon.
    This is one of the major functions of socialization, to teach children that it is wrong to pay attention to their own instincts. Telling children “you did not see that,” “you did not hear that,” “you did not feel that,” is an almost continual refrain in many families, and leads in its most extreme forms to psychosis. I believe in our innate knowledge, our innate good sense, but it is drummed out of all of us to a greater or lesser degree. Animals still possess this ability — dogs and cats and horses have instinctual reactions to people who are angry, violent, untruthful, etc. My horse bit a perfectly “nice” woman, and I think it was due to her tremendous repressed anger. See The Tao of Equus for more on this subject, it’s a wonderful book.

    • Wren

      I will check out that book, and I agree that animals sense the truth!

      • Tobysgirl

        The author writes of her own work with the mentally ill and how they cannot stand for people to lie to them, which includes smiling when you are miserable. I hope you do find the book, she writes of many deep truths, and sent me looking for anything about Richard Sorensen, an anthropologist who studied communities where people possessed no conception of lying. Unfortunately, you come to realize that practically everything you hear in our society is a lie. As you already know!

  • radwonka

    haha thanks 😛 I love to put gifs whenever I can

  • Tobysgirl

    I don’t like to presuppose that all dumb commenters are male. I once read an online “feminist” publication in which a second-wave feminist, obviously a woman, made a critical comment, and was called a man by the editor. However, anyone who spends their day googling anal sex, as I believe a commenter below does, doesn’t strike me as likely to be female. In fact, I would guess that several of the idiot commenters on this article spend their days googling anal sex. These are not readers of Feminist Current, and despite the fact that they love to call themselves feminists, that would be axiomatic for a man who spends his days googling anal sex when commenting on what is a feminist website. Gives him some gravitas in his own mind.

    • Cassandra

      “I don’t like to presuppose that all dumb commenters are male.”
      Well, they usually are, but in the case of this anal shit show the handmaidens sure made a strong showing.

      “I once read an online “feminist” publication in which a second-wave feminist, obviously a woman, made a critical comment, and was called a man by the editor.”
      Was the editor a woman or a man?

      It’s all so awful.

      • Tobysgirl

        The editor was a woman, but she seemed exceedingly young and just so full of liberal feminism because it’s so much fun! And she didn’t want some old woman dragging her down by asking, “Just what have you done for women in the actual world?”

        • Cassandra

          So depressing.

  • Melanie

    I’ve never met a woman who hasn’t suffered some kind of abuse from men either. Personally I’ve never had a good experience or relationship with a man. I don’t think this is because of some flaw within myself, an inability to ‘read’ men or an underlying need to re-enact my trauma. I don’t think women re-enact their traumatic pasts. I think that violent men seek out and take advantage of women who are numbed out by past trauma and/or who are unable to leave the situation. The suggestion that women somehow ‘draw’ violent men to themselves to resolve past trauma implies that male violence itself is not the cause of their victimization. It’s something within the women themselves, some flaw or failure to sort themselves out and protect themselves. The author of the above book The Gift of Fear famously said a similar thing along the lines of “the first time a woman is hit she’s a victim, the second time she’s a volunteer”. This completely misunderstands how trauma works and how violent men seek out and take advantage of that vulnerability. An example is women in long term domestic violence situations. I don’t think you could find women more attuned to the signals and signs of danger in their partners and in their own bodies. They’re not assaulted because they can’t read the signs. They’re assaulted because they’re frozen by trauma and fear and are unable to leave, and their violent partners take advantage of that.

  • radwonka

    Where do you find the strength to read that? 😮

    That kind of shit makes me want to buy a gun and end them all lol

    “minus the more chivalrous, nicer seeming side of traditionalism. ”

    It reminds me of jihadists who sell and buy women (and obvs they treat them badly): religions, like islam, talk about abstinence, how bad sex outside marriage is, “respect”, etc but there is ALWAYS a part that justifies rape and abuse, and even if this part only represents 0,01% of the bible/coran, it’s still this part that will be the most used by men. rofl. You know, it’s always the “yeah I really think that I’ll burn in hell because I didn’t follow the rules, but my ~~desires~~ control me, I’m still responsible, but my desires control me….and god forgives everything anyway so it’s ok” BS that shows that religious are hypocrites. If god forgives “everything”, then there is nothing to be scared of. (And I highly doubt that people truly believe in god, otherwise most of them wouldn’t behave like assholes, or even if they do believe in god, then I suppose that it is just opportunism, something that makes their ego bigger, but nothing too deep imho).

    But I guess that religous are at least honest unlike the “kinky” left…

    “Learn to relax and enjoy yourself, gorramit.

    Take a few slow, deep breaths before you bone.

    Play with yourself while he’s giving you the stroke.(5)

    Here’s some “Gender Equality” for you: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ORGASM.(6)Don’t blame your husband because of your emotional hangup”

    loool, look at that porn scenario! how original! and surprise! “gender equality” is now used against women! As if “gender equality” is a counter productive concept and benefits more males than females…

    And once again religious use libertarian (apolitical) rhetoric to justify MVAW. lol. And then libertarians will say that it is radicals who sound like conservatives…

    Some leftist libertarians like to claim that only “logical” people use the “nothing can influence you, you are responsible” rhetoric but… I fail to see how logical both religious and the kinky left are. After all, it’s not that they are really logical, it’s just that they focus on one superificial theory (“agency”) and pretend that nothing else can exist. In other words, they just follow a dogma. rofl. Very “logical” right? 😉

    That said, I’m so sad because I know that many women do really follow those “advices” (advices that are similar to “sex advices” in “women magazines” and patriarchal sites such as xojane, etc). It’s really sad, because nothing can justify that :/

    “you expect your good behavior to be rewarded by a lively sex life, with a
    wife who takes the time to maintain her good looks and shapely figure,
    and who makes the effort to groom and dress in a way that’s sexually
    appealing to you.”

    omg while i was reading I couldn’t help but think that they all sounded like libfem: they are both obsessed with feminity, essentialism, pleasing men, and most importantly: following orders (ie “10 steps to look good to express your sexuality! don’t you dare not expressing your sexuality!”). smh.

    Liberal feminism has been so destructive, I really blame them for this mess tbh.

    Kinda off topic, but did you notice that during, and after, the “sexual liberation”, many crimes against women seemed to be influenced by porn? It’s not uncommon to hear that sociopath are obsessed by porn. I tried to find studies about it, but academics are so biased that they would rather defend their porn instead of admitting that it totally changed men (like there was a study, made by an aussie man and posted on https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ which said “hum yeah choking is quite common in porn, and gendered, but that’s all, there is not another act that is equally present in most porn, so porn is not violent”, in other words, people who do research don’t think that choking is violent… ha… that’s why I don’t trust the police or scientists, since they are all pornsick themselves how can they help women? I think that so many women and girls are abused and sold because those authorities don’t want to do anything: why would they stop their bros? Why would they end patriarchal institutions? They have nothing to gain. I really hate the fact that we have to rely on them. )

  • Wren

    Hell yeah, but we are fighting a losing battle with The World’s Best Mom, apparently.

    I do wonder how her daughters feel about their mom posting a picture of them with her full name in her user ID and telling the world how her girls know all about anal sex. To say this is imprudent is an understatement.

    • Cassandra

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • Wren

    Yes, at the minimum it is a massive empathic failure, but it’s probably much more insidious than that.

  • Melanie

    I read the first article. It conflates intersex conditions with transgender and then goes on to demonstrate that ‘gender identity” is based entirely in sexist cultural stereotypes about males and females. As I said that’s how it’s defined medically and that’s how it’s diagnosed – not with a medical or scientific test but with a subjective self-identification with cultural stereotypes. I would read the other articles but I suspect it’s more of the same. There’s no way to define the term ‘gender identity’ without referring to cultural sex stereotypes. It makes no sense without them. That’s not science, it’s culture. And sexism.

  • Wren

    While I do agree that the gay community consciously thwarted efforts to slow the spread of HIV, this article had another agenda entirely:

    “While not all those who desire freedom from SSA are able to develop healthy other sex attraction, according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “Homosexual persons are called to chastity” (CCC, n. 2359). Therapy or membership in a support group, such as Courage, can help persons experiencing same-sex temptations to “gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection” (CCC, n. 2357). The teachings of Scripture and the constant witness of the Church restricting sexual relations to marriage between one man and one woman are unchangeable. It is not enough to disapprove of homosexual acts, or, as this article does, point out the very real consequences of this behavior: believers must offer their prayers, their loving concern, and real help to those who struggle with these temptations, even if it means being labeled a “homophobe” or “bigot.”

  • Cassandra

    Yup. I had the misfortune to have to deal with a male doctor this past summer, a doctor who touched my knee while he spoke to me — several times and on more than one occasion. I actually moved my entire forearm/hand over my leg so that he might get a clue. What did he do? Just touched my calf!

    He was being “warm” in his mind, right? He’d never do it to a man.

  • melissa

    Blair White has 334,918 subs on Youtube, almost all anti feminist/MRAs. Theryn Meyer 25,533, same target audience. While MRAs reject the social constructionist rhetoric(and I’m not talking about what radfems mean by that which is sex roles/femininity/masculinity is a social construct, not the material reality that is sex)from the likes of Riley Denis, they do love the “Lady brain”/”Man brain” garbage science. Shoeonahead over 5000K subs and rising , fully allied herself with and peddles the same garbage Blair White does while throwing “TERF” and mockery at YTers like Magdalen Berns and others who challenge them .Theryn is right about one thing though, “progressive” trans cultists have argued themselves into a corner. Gender is somehow both a complete social construct while simultaneous this innate, immutable part of their core identity. They want both the “born this way” rhetoric while claiming “woman” is nothing but mere social construct, a subjective “feeling”, with no definition or criteria based in material reality

  • Cassandra

    I also think it’s very appealing to men who may have smaller penises. They’re often horrible misogynists of a certain nasty flavor.

  • Cassandra

    Cosmo resides in the same sewer as all beauty magazines. All beauty magazines groom young girls for lives as sexual objects and fuck toilets because it’s profitable. That is how patriarchy sees women. That is who is doing the grooming. Recognizing what is clear as day is not delusional at all. We here are the ones who see things as they truly are. You may wake up one day or you may not. For your sake I hope maybe you don’t, because you’ll feel sooooo embarrassed and angry at this culture for brainwashing you so thoroughly.

  • Cassandra

    The “you’re telling women what to do with their bodies” is an oldie but a goodie, huh? I don’t understand how all women don’t see the truth. I saw it from a young age and I tried to be cool for so long and bought into it and now at 40-something I’m right back where I started at about 10.

  • Cassandra

    Perfect gif.

  • Cassandra

    Please let us know when and where to see you protesting against FGM, Michael K. We’ll gladly join you.

  • Cassandra

    eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww we’ve been slimed.

  • Alienigena

    ” Sex ed is not readily, particularly in the US, where they are based”

    In the western Canadian city that I live in sex education used to be provided by outside consultants like the Christian-based Pregnancy Care Centre. They provided abstinence-based sex education. What an idiotic city and province I live in. Unbelievable.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-school-board-drops-abstinence-based-sex-ed-after-complaint-1.2704291

    http://www.metronews.ca/news/edmonton/2017/04/18/advocates-call-for-end-to-funding-for-anti-abortion-groups.html

    Their services were being used by public schools not the separate school system (also known as the Catholic School Board, don’t ask me why we have parallel systems, we do).

  • Cassandra

    Hekate Jayne said it better but I’ll just go ahead and fix your sentence:

    Males, via violent, misogynist religion/culture of control and oppression, cut out the female clitoris. They force females to do this to each other and it’s the only way to survive their male-created culture based in hatred of women.

    Try putting your thoughts into the active voice with a proper subject and object in the sentence. It’s almost impossible to wiggle out of the truth that way but it might do you some good.

  • Cassandra

    We know that sex and gender are not the same. Grace and you do not.

  • Cassandra

    Yes, we know. Gender is a made up bunch of crap stereotypes based on biological sex. It’s not innate and it’s not in your brain.

    Sex is the reproductive category of male or female. It can’t be changed.

    Not too difficult.

  • Cassandra

    “Empowering” women with what to do what? Are they empowered to kill the men who try to rape them or coerce them and suffer no consequences? Are they empowered to get an abortion any time they want after being raped, no matter where in the world they live?

    That would be great, huh?! But I don’t think that’s happening any time soon, not until MEN stop trying to control us. All the empowered empowerfullness in the world doesn’t do shit to stop violent men.

  • Cassandra

    You sort of get it. Sort of. The problem, however, still lies with males. We live in a rape culture and rape is entirely on them. Women shouldn’t have to be educated that it’s okay to say no. It shouldn’t even be a question. The pressure should not exist. That’s the point.

  • Cassandra

    “And the majority of homosexual men are not misogynists, they are feminists.”

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL to infinity.

    And we know that sex does not equal gender. Gender is not a real thing. Gender is a cart of horse shit that belongs back in 1858 where it came from.

    Also, what is a female and how can you feel like one if you can’t define it?

  • Cassandra

    I wish I could do a tumblr hand-clapping emoji but I’m not on my ipad; you’ll just have to accept my “Bravo!”

    Yes, patriarchy just keeps coming up with reversals—each one more breathtakingly hateful than the last.

  • Emma

    Why the hell wouldn’t a woman have a clitoris? Do you understand biology?

  • Cassandra

    LOL. You guys think that if you send us articles that are saying the same bullshit you’re saying we’re somehow going to say “Oh, you’re so right! What ignorant fools we are!”

    We don’t think much of that National Geographic issue/story, that’s for sure.

    http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/12/16/national-geographic-gender-revolution-cover-fails-women/

    We live in a male supremacist culture. Trans gender ideology is a patriarchal wet dream. Science has always been and continues to be controlled and run by males, as do all institutions (law, science, medicine, education), because males keep females out. Sexism and bias are baked into it all, and chomping at the bit to prove lady brain — what a surprise coming from the medical community, which receives huge grants from pharma companies, which have a vested interest in propagating this mass trans delusion our culture is currently in the grips of. What a surprise.

    Science? NOT.

  • Cassandra

    🙂

  • Cassandra

    How do you do on vocabulary tests?

  • FierceMild

    Alright, ladies. I’ve come up with a new ready-for-anal-sex test. If you’re considering shoving foreign objects or other people’s body parts up your own rectum (or someone else’s, because we all know FC may be aimed at women but is totes read mostly by men. Hi Rich, Hey Juan!) and into your intestines should you consult:

    A) Wikipedia
    B) Teen Vogue
    C) Reddit
    D) A gastroenterologist

  • Rita

    First of all, I just wanted to say (slightly off-topic) that I LOVE this site. I am more than thrilled to finally have found some place where women are not sufficiently brainwashed to repeat the skewed misguided slogans, such as the great and fantastic enjoyment of giving blow jobs, putting out in “no-strings attached” relationships and “loving porn.” One doesn’t have to be a rocket (or any kind of) scientist to figure that these acts obviously serve male interests. Even as a teenager 15 years ago, reading teen magazines, I was already asking myself in disbelief – “who the fuck is buying into this? Why would anyone with any self-respect, sense of self-preservation or basic logic be willingly eating this crap up. Not only that, but actually associating these acts against self interest with “freedom” or “forward thinking.” Madness!

    Thankully at least there are sites such as feminist current where people can still see the light, unlike the author of that misguided Teen Vouge article. So blow jobs and putting out for nothing and far too early – not enough now. Now the media are now brainwashing young girls to willingly offer up their asshole for male satisfaction. It’s implied that it is yet another step towards being a modern, liberated and *fun* woman. I call BS!

    Why don’t they teach these girls that to be truly liberated is to realistically think in terms of self interest.

    • FierceMild

      Welcome, sister

  • Hekate Jayne

    We absolutely do know this. You can’t see what you are not educated to see.

  • Megan

    Okay. I may have came off as a bit brash. Apologies where they are due.
    For the sake of the argument, I’m going to put myself into your point of view.
    So, the author of the article is skeptical that the typical women enjoys anal intercourse, (If there is any enjoyment, it’s more likely that it’s a result of internal misogyny).
    Therefore the typical woman is most likely coerced into having anal intercourse. Which is not consent. But the women who allow themselves to be coerced are collectively changing the status quo to the point where anal intercourse is a normalized sexual behavior, and in turn, are to blame for the coercion and rape of other women. Because the women who allowed it were serving the patriarchy. Is that correct?
    If so, isn’t that, in essence, victim blaming?
    Because all women are oppressed by the patriarchy, and one group of women who have been conditioned to accept and internalize misogyny, “superficially” enjoy anal intercourse?
    You’re right. I can’t wrap my head around that.
    Instead of outright blaming the patriarchy, you tear into other women. Instead of educating them on the risks and stigma associated with anal intercourse, you yell at them, call them idiots or worse. Because your only goal is to destroy the patriarchy and everything associated with it, including the women who “choose to partake” in it. Some of those women in which, want the same things, but approach it differently because of their diverse backgrounds and experiences. Those women will be cast away.
    And I have a problem with that.

  • Meghan Murphy

    We all know what the difference between sex and gender is. Sex = biology, gender = sexist stereotypes imposed on males and females. Can we move forward?

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    plastic surgery is often needed for superficial things or in connection with reconstructive surgery–not needed to fix something, but to make the person feel better. Reconstructive surgery is sometimes chosen by a person to look better, even if it is not physically needed. Child birth does not need to be done in the hospital, but most women do and you often need to use “sick leave” to take time off even though you are not sick. Women are sometimes cut or sewn up in child birth which isn’t necessarily needed, it just makes things heal faster. People who are Transexual are a man or woman inside–their bodies just took a wrong turn during cell division–a chromosomal abnormality. It is a physical and societal issue, not a mental health issue.

    • Hekate Jayne

      I am wondering what you think about Iran.

      I’m assuming that you know, but in case you don’t, Iran pays for Trans surgery, and they execute lesbians and gay males.

      It’s a religious thing. Because in Iran, if you are homosexual, then you are executed.

      Unless you agree to transgender surgery. Because of their extreme homophobia.

    • Tobysgirl

      See Germaine Greer, The Whole Woman, for why women DO NOT NEED to be cut then sewn during vaginal childbirth. This is just one more example of the horrible things done to women that are totally unnecessary but that make money for the medical profession and reinforce male control over female bodies.
      And what does being a man or woman inside mean other than one’s primary sexual characteristics? A man can’t be a woman inside EVER. You are writing about cerebral beliefs as though they can be located in physical reality. With that logic, the world was created in six days 6,000 years ago by some ole geezer in the sky.

    • Morag999

      “People who are Transexual are a man or woman inside–their bodies just took a wrong turn during cell division–a chromosomal abnormality.”

      Nope. You’re just making up stuff. Otherwise known as telling lies. Whoppers. Why do you think you can get away with that?

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    Transexuality is NOT a psychiatric disorder. If you feel that you are a female, but you are trapped in a man’s body, that’s pretty awful. If you can have surgery to align the two, all is better. I knew a young man, a friend of my daughter’s who attempted suicide. His friends luckily got an ambulance there in time (parents were out for the evening). The attempt was a cry for help that his body and brain did not match. His body is now male as well as his personality and brain. He is happy and has gone on to travel to Europe and go to university.

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    I’ve used ICD-11 which is an international classification of diseases. Sorry if an international classification guide doesn’t fit with your belief system. Ignorant is not understanding that the beliefs of others may be better than your own, refusing to try to see others’ points of view. I’m sorry for you that you can not look outside of your own belief system/religion to try empathy.

  • Michelle Lee-Reid

    In the text of the original article in Teen Vogue, she says “vagina owner”. Yes, the diagrams are labeled as “prostate” and “non-prostate”, and you’re right–that is weird. And yes, the clitoris should not have been left out–I noticed that right away. I just didn’t think those things were as important as the text and the message.

  • kfwkfw

    The thing is I don’t know if there is a correct way. You may have seen or, more likely, skipped over all of the info of its risks in these comments. It’s also on the internet if you search for it from reputable sources. That info is not in the article though.

  • Kim Delosier

    My letter to The Chicago Tribune after the Teen Vogue article:

    Yeah, pat yourself on the back.

    Reread the Teen Vogue article.

    Teen Vogue would like to convince itself that it is the herald of a pan-sexual audience. In fact, the magazine enjoys the solid readership of a very young female audience while desperately pandering to an LGBTQ audience that in actuality gleans its information (rightly) from more issue-centric sources .

    Assume the perspective of the 12-18 yr old girl who makes up 90+ percent of Teen Vogue’s readership. What is she reading here? “Yeah, other girls are just like you. Their porn-obsessed boyfriends tried to f*ck them up the ass with no warning and no preparation. It hurt. They hated it. But turns out those chicks are just ‘uneducated.’ You’re supposed to **LOVE** anal sex, especially when some ignorant 18 yr old boy is forcing it on you. Oh, you don’t like it? Well, get a butt plug. You’re SUPPOSED to like it. ”

    The short-lived Sassy magazine of the early 1990s would have counseled young girls to tell their imbecilic barely pubescent boyfriends to go fuck THEMSELVES up the a$$. Teen Vogue, on the other hand, is insinuating to teen girls that they’re abnormal if they don’t acquiesce to male-dictated sex as encouraged by the porn industry. If they want to get into anal sex, and eventually, as mature women, discuss it with their partners….great. But Teen Vogue is widening the (already extremely broad) spectrum of what every young teen girl is supposed to consider ‘normal’ and ‘expected’ to include sexual interests (like anal sex) that are generally exhibited in MUCH older women, if at all.
    I challenge you to locate a parent of sub-adolescents who is more ‘liberal’ than I am. However, I pride myself on the fact that my 11 and 13 yr old children have not been exposed to the mindless violence of network television. And now it appears that my struggle is to protect them from the blatant ignorance spewed in teen magazines that claim to be ‘progressive.’
    My teenage daughter does not have to consent, against her better judgment and physical inclinations, to anal sex just because her porn-honed boyfriend thinks ‘everybody does it’ and a mainstream teen magazine suggests that he is correct. Publish, instead, a detailed article on exactly what ANY teen (hetero or LGBTQ) should do if a partner suggests something that they are not comfortable with. But you’re just too damn trendy for that, right?

    Kim Delosier Shindler
    Portland, OR

  • Hanakai

    In the news today are reports from the American Cancer Society that deaths from colon and rectal cancers are up in young white people. For people born in the 1990s or later, the colon and rectal cancer death rates are skyrocketing.

    Since routine screening is not generally done on younger people, the cancers found in younger adults are often in advanced stages and more deadly, said Dr. James Church, a colorectal surgeon at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. “Everybody in colorectal surgical circles is seeing increased incidence of colon cancer in the young, defined as younger than 50.”

    The researchers are puzzled as to what is causing the increased incidences of these colorectal cancers. If they had looked at the anal sex practices of the afflicted, the answer might have been clear. Anal sex is basically a superhighway to infection, HPV and carcinogenic viruses are easily transmitted to the bloodstream through anal sex. Warn the young.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/health/colon-cancer-rectal-cancer-deaths-study/index.html

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/deaths-colon-cancer-are-younger-white-people-n790851

    • radwonka

      “The researchers are puzzled as to what is causing the increased incidences”

      It’s 2017 and doctors still don’t know what causes cancer (except some things like “yeah smoking is bad”)… it’s really disappointing. They are SO slow smh.