What’s Current: Five women accuse Louis C.K. of masturbating in front of them

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  • Five women have accused comedian Louis C.K. of masturbating in front of them. His movie premiere was preemptively cancelled, in anticipation of the New York Times story detailing these allegations. HBO has removed C.K.’s projects from streaming service.
  • GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore is accused by four separate women of sexually assaulting them when they were teenagers.
  • Eighteen men on a special Brazilian parliamentary committee voted to end exemptions in the country’s abortion ban in cases where the woman was raped or if her life is in danger. The measure will now go to a full lower house vote.
  • A Pennsylvania man strangled and beat a 19-year-old woman to death after she rejected his marriage proposal.
  • The Canadian federal government is looking to eliminate provisions in the Indian Act that make it harder for women than for men to pass official Indigenous status down to their children.
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  • kfwkfw

    I bet Roy Moore smells disgusting

    Oh men!!! What can ya do?

    • Abi Tiki

      Better.

  • Dr.Z

    Matrilineal heritage is the only genealogy that matters! Just ask 23 & Me who will delineate your history vis a vis female genetics. The fact that indigenous women cant simply give birth to indigenous people without qualification is misogynist racism legalized.

    • Anon

      some men love to believe the lie that men are biologically more important and superior to women, think of the ancient greek beliefs that women were merely “incubators” for children, and the fathers were the most important contributor. nothing could be further from the truth and in fact the X chromosome and mitochondrial DNA is way more important and useful than the Y chromosome. we also actually inherit more genetic material from our mothers.

      • Hanakai

        Men are biologically weaker than women. Nature made women stronger, as women are important to the survival of the species, to the survival of infants and children, while men are basically superfluous sperm donors.

        Men are more prone to sex-linked genetic diseases and defects, such as color-blindness, hemophilia, Duchenne muscular dystrophy, male pattern baldness, Alport syndrome, Fragile X syndrome, etc.

    • Hanakai

      Some years ago, a renowned geneticist announced that his children were not as genius and high IQ as he was and he attributed this to the children’s mother.

      More recent research shows that children inherit their intelligence from the mother, not the father. There is data indicating that genes for intelligence are carried on the X chromosome. While the science is not entirely settled, it appears that 40 – 60% of intelligence involves heredity and that it is the mother’s genes that are largely determinative of inherited intelligence.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB835919711841023500
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-intelligence-hereditary/

  • Rachael

    More and more women are feeling like they can speak out about what happened to them. I’m curious as to the reactions of “normal” men who consider themselves the “good” guys. Are they starting to feel shocked at the scale of violence against women or are they still in make-believe world where they bury their heads in the sand? I think it’s probably the latter. Whereas most women (at least those who haven’t become handmaidens) are sitting back, watching, knowing this is barely the tip of the iceberg.

    • JCortese

      I think they’re neither — they’re where most “good guys” are. Whining to themselves why the fuck they have to be expected to give a shit if “I didn’t do it!”

      Well, WE didn’t do it either, asshole, but we still have to deal with the consequences every day of our fucking lives, so why the fuck should you not have to care?

      That’s the main difference between “good” men and bad men. Bad men rape. “Good” men resent having to pretend to give a shit about rape when they haven’t even done it.

  • Omzig Online

    Seeing lots of shocked and disappointed posts on social media from female friends about Louis C.K.

    Why so shocked? Surely this isn’t the first time a supposedly likable man has shocked or disgusted them. I learned a long, long time ago that male role models are not worth looking up to. Have my friends just been living on another planet? Males are usually not worth your admiration. Men will invariably disappoint you, they may even disgust you.

    Duh.

    • Hanakai

      Duh, really. All you had to do was listen to his comedic routine to conclude that this was a very psycho-sexually f*cked-up dude. His main subject of supposed humor involved the penis and masturbation. Har har har.

  • Cassandra

    Brazil. What a misogynist armpit shithole fuck asshole mother fucker toxic Catholic Church swamp. Goddamnit.

    • martindufresne

      Let’s not lump Brazilian women along with their mostly male politicians.

      • Cassandra

        I don’t think I was.

    • Anon

      disgusting that abortion is illegal in Brazil yet prostitution is legal. what a mess. they can’t even be consistent with their religious nonsense. charlatans. seriously, fuck Brazil. toxic mix of religious fundamentalism, sex-positivism and vanity.

  • Zuzanna Smith

    And this is why I’m no longer Catholic.

  • JCortese

    It rebuilds itself if we’re not careful. If we slacken for a second, it’s back stronger than ever. That’s probably the most disheartening thing about all of this. I’m old enough to remember when people thought that Anita Hill’s testimony would “change things.” It didn’t.

    It’s unbelievably depressing to imagine that we need to regard these creatures that we’d honestly just prefer to peacefully love as if they are dangerous animals that we can’t take our eyes off for a second, and that we need to be prepared to stand in opposition to them for the rest of our lives, with eternal vigilance. Who could enjoy normal heterosexual sex knowing you can’t let your guard down for one second around them, when you know that the minute you do, it’s two steps forward, three steps back? Especially for women who have had sons, how depressing to realize that these creatures that you risked your life to bring into the world in blood and pain are the same class of creatures that you can only trust as long as you have a knife at their throats. (I know lots of women make big, loud noises about how they raised “feminist sons,” but I think those women would be very surprised to hear how their darling male feminist role models act with their male friends when Mommy’s not around. Brock Turner’s mom probably told everyone how proud she was of having raised a feminist son, too.)

    It’s almost no wonder that women slacken off after achieving small victories. Who wants to live like that — live as if you can never just relax around one of them, and as if you have to look your own child in the face and think, “Odds are someday you’ll grow into someone who thinks that what I did to bring you to life is filthy, obscene, and a source of degradation to me.”

    I know that’s not what you were saying, and I know I’m springboarding madly off into the pale blue yonder from your comment, but it just made me think of this — that the wall crumbles, and then we celebrate because we’re so desperate to RELAX for once for pete’s sake, and while we’re distracted, it rebuilds itself again. We can’t afford the romantic fantasy that the wall will ever truly crumble for good as long as we share a planet with them, ugly though that realization may be.

    • Bleeps3

      We need a women’s country. Men would bomb the hell out of it, but it would be nice for a minute.

      Men are never going to change, they will just figure out new methods.

  • M. Zoidberg

    Right?! Like Louis CK is some fucking God that should be permitted to have women “sacrificed” to him for jerk-off purposes because he’s so great.

    Lol, there are even a few saying (under the NYT article) that Louis is being “kink-shamed”! THE LOGIX OF MENZ!

  • marv

    Amen, amen, amen. Amen

  • Cassandra

    It is unfortunate that two readers here have taken offense at what I said, but I think anybody who knows me here knows that it goes without saying who and what I am talking about. Countries steeped in misogynistic culture, such as Brazil, *are* shitholes for the women who live in them. You are #notallmenning me in a different way and derailing in the process.

    The entire world is a shithole for women. I’m sick of the chiding for talking about reality.

  • Bleeps3

    I think he’ll become an MRA figurehead.

  • Blazing Fire

    The male wolves-in-sheepskin have twisted the Bible to suit themselves very comfortably. They’ve also managed to paint God as their fellow MRA-dude, while it is really not the case.

    Though the Bible seems to have some statements like “obeying husbands” and that sort (and though it is still tamer compared to a lot other religions), on closer reading & from real life experience, it isn’t exactly what we first think it is. I can say from my personal experience too – our Church “leaders” abandoned me totally when my life was in danger from my ex-husband. I wasn’t a social person, and had no where else to turn to – I had almost equated Church & Church-related-folks with God & was so blindly trusting them till then. And I had a disabled dependent to protect from the murderous creep too (I’m not elaborating, since I don’t want to be identified by any lurker who might see this). To put things short, I did escape & got so much help from unexpected quarters (all of then non-Christians – the church had completely shaken me off & virtually dumped me to the dogs. Well, even Christ praised the foreign Samaritan over the “levite & priest”, right?), AND later realized the many little odd things that had happened earlier that made my escape & liberation much much smoother than any other domestic-violence victim’s case I came across later. The “odd things” I said had very little chance of really happening – I’m sure it was God who did that. Some may call it luck, but I really can’t:).. I’m sure God has better things for all His daughters than any male would want them to know.

    Later, after I managed to save our lives & was heading for a divorce, the preacher swore up & down that I should never ever go for a divorce since it is against the Bible. (He got to know bcoz my ex, who hardly steps into Church, went to him & complained that I ran away). Any argument I brought forth was met with silence (can’t reply without shooting his own foot) or with sheepish “no, no, not that way” & “Don’t worry too much, just trust me” stuff. Finally he caved in & said “As a preacher, I can’t tell you to go ahead & divorce. So, don’t expect me to say that. It is up to you”. Not that I was really waiting for him to give permission – I would have gone ahead with legal procedures anyway. He betrayed himself when he abandoned me in a very inhuman way when I first approached him for help. Even if he had been kind I still wouldn’t have tried to go along I think, since I had a clear mind at that time, thank God for that.

    Anyway, years after that happened, something struck me. The passage in the New Testament about divorce says (I Cor : 7: 10,11):

    “To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.
    But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.”

    WAIT A SEC! – the unconditional “must not divorce” rule is meant only for husbands. A wife IS given one leeway – she can leave but on condition that she doesn’t get into trouble (I mean, marriage) with another guy. It was recognized that women can face life-threatening, unsafe situations in marriage where they’ll have to escape from it, and have been given permission for that!! (how many Christian women even know about this??) A man wouldn’t be facing such threat-to-life problems from a wife, so no leeway for him (if he thinks she is nagging or annoying, he is still not extended any lenience)

    Also, the same Chapter says
    “..and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face
    many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this..”
    Clearly saying that it is very optional to get married.

    So, that’s what the Bible says. Now how have the men framed it?:
    1) You must never ever divorce your husband, even unto death (which is NOT what the Bible really said)
    2) If you are female, you HAVE to get married ASAP, and be fruitful (or one of the many other variations of the same thing). Higher studies & career be damned (while the Bible clearly ranks Spiritual growth as more important than marriage for women as well)
    3) There are male preachers who have divorced & remarried and still continue to preach (unless I’m really really mistaken) and have their supporters among their community too – I really don’t know what argument the fellow-preachers would give to justify this, since it is pretty much mandated that for some positions in the ministry, a man must have married exactly one woman. Probably they’ll say that the rule is meant only for xyz position, and this guy’s position is not exaccctly that, so it is fine.

  • kfwkfw

    Lol…Really truly…he smells like SIN! Real true sin. He’s that bad. He smells like dead vultures. He’s immoral & should be put down.

  • Alienigena

    I wonder if the focus on relational violence between women in books, film and television which had an uptick in the late 1990s into the 2000s (and up to the 2010’s) with the publication of books like Queen Bee obscured the problem of male violence. There was so much focus on female on female relational violence in the media that there seemed to be little space for an honest examination of male violence against women. And let’s face it, men are capable of and skilled at all kinds of violence including sexual, physical, relational, emotional psychological, financial, religious, etc. I have experienced relational violence from girls and women but I find it astounding that so little attention seemed to have been paid to male violence in mainstream media from about 1999 – 2014. I don’t know if a content analysis has been done about the theme of female relational violence over that 15 year period but there seemed to be a heck of a lot of emphasis on it vs. on male violence against women. I worry that the #metoo themed revelations that are trending now are just that, a trend that won’t last. I don’t really want male violence against women to be reduced to a hashtag and to sexual violence only since men commit a variety of forms of violence against women.

  • Fanny

    Same. I have to say that I’m not very surprised by a) and c), but b) ????? Where the hell did men find such a thing ?

    Typical pervert speech though ; “what, you don’t like it ? Come on all the women I know like it, you such a PRUDE.”

  • Anon

    I agree with everything you said but what about the Brazilian women who are helping the men to oppress their fellow country women? they should be held accountable too. (I don’t know anything about their politics but I’m assuming there are female handmaidens there too?)