What’s Current: 37-year-old man claims ageism after being banned from Starbucks for hitting on 16-year-old barista


Man says he’s facing discrimination due to his age after being banned from a Starbucks for hitting on 16-year-old barista. The 37-year-old man says:

“I broke no laws. I merely took a chance with my heart. I’m tired of hearing the word ‘creep’ as any black person or gay person is tired of hearing certain words. I have a whole webpage dedicated to age gap love.”

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  • Monsieur Zoidberg

    Creepy men experiencing discrimination, like blacks or gays? Lol, dafuk?! Not an OUNCE of self-awareness with that Starbucks creep. Typical creepy manbaby, gets called out and instead of crawling quietly back into the hole he came from, he throws a tantrum.

  • melissa

    A comment from the creepy borderline pedo dude’s page… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8eab00e3462b0828d850b60df2c2d4b17aa4ba83e16c4fde41948419532f1b31.png

    Nah, those guys are not creepy misogynists at all.Just “tolerant” and “open minded” doncha see….

    • Marla

      Shit like this makes me want to give up on the world. What brought to this site was the commentary on the trans movement er, sorry, “revolution” where I found some relief that there were other women out there not afraid to say it is a fetish. I once had a man approach me who was much like Mr. Predatory Starbucks here (maybe slightly older) claiming he was trans but wanted me to “feminize” him, to “train” him to be more female and eventually “sissify” him. He ended throwing tantrum a when I told him I’m not at all into fashion designers much less nursing his disturbing fantasy. My point being that his fetish did not surprise me but the manner in which he spoke it was much like a 10 year old boy. Why that is I’ll leave for a experienced therapist to explain.

      Sexual predatory behavior is not a “skill”, in most cases it’s a precursor to rape and other forms of sexual abuse. What men like this want is a female to dominate them for their social dysfunction as long as it goes in accordance with their script and who would better to suit that then a underage girl who, as I did when I was 16, was still naive about Mr. Predatory Starbucks guy(s).

      No surprise they would claim discrimination and compare their “plight” to that of guys and/or blacks as a means of convenience if not downright manipulation. “God damn it, I’m nearly 40 and I’m owed a 16 year-old girl.” Yes, for every black and/or gay who has faced such tremendous injustices like being beaten to death or lynched, there is a self-entitled middle-aged white male who has it much, much worse. Oh, and there’s nothing like social media with its unending identity politics that attracts others just like him that “age gap love” is a privilege and not a pedophile (open) mindset.

      Fuck you, Mr. Starbucks. You are a creep.

    • Liz

      wow his fb page…guy seems OFF in an extra way, like beyond the usual problems dudes have.

  • Yisheng Qingwa

    Men are defective, to even EXPECT anyone to believe it was about his “heart”. SURE, D00D.

  • Amanda Flecha

    You just know that when he says “whole webpag dedicated to age gap love”, what he actually means is a Tumblr filled with pornographic pictures of teen girls.

  • FierceMild

    “Age gap love” vomiting into my own scorn.

    • will

      Yeah, I’m sure dude would be totally cool and open to a 58-year-old woman aggressively pursuing him for sex.

      • FierceMild

        Eeeeeeeeew! Age gap love, cool, women pursuing men , grossly unfeminine. Especially women who have “hit the wall” of gross elderly grossosity, which we do at age 23.

  • Cassandra

    Starbucks dude is an entitled MRA type (most men, in other words). When women try to get away from their abuse they say it’s discrimination. If you take measures to get away from us and thwart us when we creep on you and oppress you and harass you, you’re oppressing US!!

    It would be funny if it weren’t so harmful. These guys feel discriminated against for their age when younger women find them disgusting but think nothing of finding women their own age disgusting. Hypocrisy, thy name is the patriarchy.

    • hellkell

      Starbucks dude is 100% batshit. He’s got a manifesto on his website because of course he does. His sense of entitlement is so vast and swollen that it’s pretty much taken him over. He never got the message that the world does not owe him the young woman of his dreams.

  • Marla

    I can only speculate here but my theory is that most women over 20 know of his game or have fallen for it. Most likely, he cannot relate to women in his age bracket on a mature, emotional level. He’s taking a page straight out of the Book of Hugh Hefner and/or Jerry Lee Lewis claiming that ageism is just another cultural misnomer and he has every “right” to any 16 year-old or he’ll cry foul on social media that his rights are now being discriminated against his male privilege.

    I will also speculate that his aim is to get other males (via a web page) who cannot relate to women in their own age bracket to support him while purporting misogyny as a means to justify his predatory ends.

    Certain stories like this trigger me in a way that makes me see nothing but red because I’ve met males like this. Way too many times. You really can’t fight them except for recognizing their behavior once they engage in it. The next step is to expose them for who they truly are and warn others to do the same. As cliche it this might sound, most will scurry back into the world of their parent’s basement. Problem is they always come out again, once they received enough misogynistic encouragement from their web page buddies.

    • Zuzanna Smith

      I agree, but he strikes me as a total pedophile.

  • Zuzanna Smith

    “The heart wants what it wants”.

  • Liz

    I’m getting tired of the no-platforming thing, no matter which side it comes from.

  • Kendall Turtle

    Lol his “invitation to dinner” said he wanted to be inside her… not creepy at all, was from the heart everyone!

  • genny

    I gave up on men last year when, after I met the latest creeper online, I found my way to Feminist Current, and then became a hardcore radfem. Anytime I even THINK about going back to the dating cesspool, someone like this pedophile stops me from jumping in. Used to be a libfem who tolerated lots of shit from men, and cannot believe the garbage I used to believe in.

    Thank Goddess for radfem and Meghan Murphy – both saved my life.

    • Meghan Murphy

      Solidarity, sister

  • lk

    “I’m tired of hearing the word ‘creep’ as any black person or gay person is tired of hearing certain words.”

    What is the deal with people using the struggles and histories of minority groups to support their own ideology?

    A black person who is tired of racist language being thrown at them is in no way comparable to a pedophile being upset that people find him creepy.

    On his website, he refers to people who criticize him as being bigoted….

    He also says that he hasn’t had a date in 5 years….gee, I wonder why?!

  • lk

    “Unwanted attention is harassment.”

    I think many men think all women want attention from men all the time!! To them there is no such thing as harassment…they seem to think that we should be flattered & grateful by whatever attention they give us.

    I think a lot of men think that women leave the house just hoping and praying someone will hit on us.

    And their attention is rarely about being genuinely interested in getting to know you as a person…it’s about them trying to add another notch on their belt.

    • Cassandra

      Yup. Most men think you should be grateful for their attentions. Not too long ago I was telling my dad about the man who pestered me through a six hour flight and he said something like, “Well someday it won’t happen at all.” (My dad is sexist but doesn’t think he is.) I replied, “Male attention isn’t inherently valuable. It’s only valuable if you want or the person it’s coming from. Why would I be flattered by some creep pestering me?”
      He tried to hide it, sort of, but I could tell that it had never occured to him and it also kinda pissed him off.
      Men always think their opinions about our fuckability are important and must be expressed. Such arrogance.

      • Wren

        Ugh. You gave a good reply. I’m snarky and probably would of said, “CAN’T WAIT!!”

  • lk

    That story..I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry or laughcry….

    So this man abandoned his 7 children to just do what he wants to do…forget the mother of his children and the children…as long as he gets what he wants..thats all that matters!!

    I think this idea of acceptance and inclusion has been warped so much that it means we must accept and support every kind of behavior and ideology no matter how harmful.

    What sucks is that the language of civil rights is now being used by pedophilia, transgender, pro-prostitution and alt-right ideologies.

    In the name of intersectionality I am supposed to support the needs of johns, pimps and men who believe they are women. In the name of inclusion, I need to respect racist and sexist ideologies.

    I feel like we’re living in a world where facts and history are taking a back seat to individual feelings and desires.

  • Fanny


    I guess talking about “sex discrimination” would make more sense than “homophobia” in that case, indeed. Then your conclusion fits perfectly 🙂