India Willoughby’s ‘not all men’ response to feminist activist demonstrates his misogyny

India Willoughby may identify as a women, but he does not identify with women.


It’s not uncommon for feminists to point out the parallels between men’s rights activism and trans rights activism. But rarely are those parallels laid out quite so plainly as they were last week when India Willoughby, a UK trans rights advocate, appeared on Good Morning Britain alongside women’s activist and lifetime domestic abuse worker Karen Ingala Smith.

Hosted by Piers Morgan and Susannah Reid, the ITV breakfast show intended to discuss the news that UK women’s refuges are to consider employing self-identifying transwomen. But Willoughby quickly derailed the discussion into one about the use of domestic violence shelters by trans-identifying males. Willoughby repeatedly centred himself and his concerns for men in the debate, despite sitting next to Ingala Smith, CEO of a London-based domestic violence charity and founder of the Counting Dead Women project.

Willoughby refuted concerns that predatory men might take advantage of self-identification as a means to access women, declaring the suggestion “preposterous.” He went on to repeatedly deny that transgender women can and do pose a threat to women, despite recent research from the UK that suggests that trans-identifying males are two and a half times more likely to be imprisoned for a sexual offence than the male prison populace as a whole. Willoughby’s casual lack of compassion towards women’s need for and right to safety, privacy, and dignity, is clear.

At several points he appears to suggest that violent crimes committed by women are just as much of an issue as those of men. In challenging Ingala Smith as to why a woman who has suffered abuse in a lesbian relationship should be welcomed into a women’s refuge while a transgender woman may not, Willoughby not only ignores the nature of domestic abuse but promotes an unfair stereotype of homosexual women as more likely to be violent than heterosexual women. By pointing out that women can be perpetrators as well as victims, his intention is to deny that domestic abuse is gendered. Shelters are therefore “discriminating” in being run by and for women. This is nothing short of a mirror image of MRA arguments.

Not content with denying the reality and nature of male violence towards women, around half way through the debate Willoughby turns again to the question of transgender women in shelters, directly challenging Ingala Smith on whether he would personally be welcome in one of her refuges. In making the question personal, Willoughby attempts to undermine Ingala Smith by implying that she is participating in unreasonable discrimination. Before Ingala Smith is able to properly respond, Willoughby moves on to attack Counting Dead Women, a project that records women killed every year in the UK by men, of which there were 138 in 2017 in England and Wales alone. “With the greatest respect,” Willoughby says, “I visited your website, and you have a list of crimes committed by men, and there is a great demonization. I feel really sorry for guys this year — I think they’ve had it really tough.”

Yes, that is correct: India Willoughby, who claims to be a woman, can look at a long list of murdered women — the majority of which happen at the hands of an intimate partner — and his sympathies lay not with the women who have been killed or their families, but with men at large who Willoughby apparently believes are being made to look bad through discussing these crimes as gendered. At no point does Willoughby seem to consider that if men did not abuse and murder women, there would no need for such a list.

At the end of the debate, Willoughby actually uses the now-cliched phrase, “not all men.” He accuses Ingala Smith of having “one track” — presumably one that unfairly “demonizes” men as perpetrators of violence. Essentially, he suggests that women are just as inclined towards violence, so could everyone please stop pointing the finger at men? But crime statistics simply don’t support this. The homicide rate for males in England and Wales in 2016, for example, is more than twice that of females, while women were more than five times more likely than men to be killed by partners or ex-partners.

Willoughby dominated the discussion, interrupting and talking over Ingala Smith at least 11 times during the short six minute dialogue, to Ingala Smith’s obvious unease. Willoughby’s arrogant dismissal of Ingala Smith’s arguments, despite her having a wealth of experience in a field which he knows nothing about, is worthy of mansplain status.

Willoughby already made his misogyny clear during his appearance on Celebrity Big Brother earlier this year. He repeatedly talked over, shouted at, and interrupted female contestants, at one point yelling at an elderly woman who unintentionally used male pronouns to describe him, “I am a real woman!” and refusing to accept her repeated attempts at an apology. He centered himself and his trans status in virtually every conversation aired on the show, demonstrating a distinct lack of self-awareness and lack of regard for the feelings of women around him.

For trans-identifying males like Willoughby, “being a woman” is little more than a costume and a performance. Dressing “like a woman” and having the appearance of a woman’s body is, to his mind, what being a woman is all about. To Willoughby, womanhood is a place he has every right to conquer and colonize. Women’s material condition, our experiences, and our struggles are not real to him. He does not see them, and he does not care to. He may identify as a woman, but he does not identify with women.

On Good Morning Britain, Willoughby demonstrated not only his complete lack of awareness or empathy with women’s lived experiences in the world, but his utter lack of compassion towards them. Like so many other trans rights activists, Willoughby’s sentiments demonstrate a resentment and hatred towards women that is difficult to square with their demands to have access to women’s spaces, rights, and protections.

When trans activists display the kind of blatant misogyny that Willoughby does, it becomes clear that this activism is really about men’s rights, to the detriment of women. If we are to move forward to productive conversation, trans rights activists must begin by recognizing that women’s material reality and theirs differ.

Pris Corbett is a feminist and freelance writer, she tweets at @PrisCorbett.

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  • Americus91

    “I’m sure in that situation if the trans woman were causing distress they would back off.” – All evidence points to the contrary.

  • Christine

    Good catch. Given the tone and argument of the piece, I am sure Ms Corbett meant ‘attempted to refute’ (or perhaps ‘refused to engage on the issue’).

  • Zuzanna Smith

    Yup, he’s going to make us pay for his failure to con everyone and his inability to force women to roll over for his superior Manswoman ladeeness.

  • Tinfoil the Hat

    Trans-identified males are men.

  • corvid

    That feminists seek “power” over men is exactly what MRAs think. Mr. Bergdorf is effectively trying to hijack a feminist protest in order to destroy actual feminism. Epic mind-fuck.

    • thebewilderness

      Trans rights activists are a subset of MRA. Just as trans identified males are a subset of category male.

  • Rachael

    Fab article, thank you.

  • Max Dashu

    Painful to watch Willoughby mow over the shelter woman, who could not complete a sentence without interruption.

    • Kathleen Lowrey

      Pardon the nosiness — but are you THE Max Dashú? WOW!

    • “The shelter woman”? Really? She’s not worthy of a name?

  • Max Dashu

    Yes, “refuted” means successfully disproving. I see it used more and more to mean “contested” but for those who know the word’s meaning, it would be better to say that she disparaged, rejected, dismissed concerns about women’s safety if males were allowed into women’s shelters, prisons, etc.

  • Americus91

    Another mass shooting here in the USA. Was it a woman? Was it a girl? Was it a lesbian? No, it was yet another homicidal male.

    Women do not need to demonize males – they do it themselves.

    • lk

      As soon as I saw the news story about a high school shooting, I knew it was a male.

      And I’ll make a prediction: the next mass shooting, and the one after and the one after will also be committed by males.

      Yet, I have no doubt we will see a plethora of articles condemning the violence of “people” and very little conversation about the constant violent behavior of males.

    • -Jane Don’t-

      As someone who lives in the US, I can only shake my head at all of these shootings. 18 gun related incidents in schools so far this year; that’s ridiculous and horrifying. Why do these men resort to this crap? School is supposed to be a safe place to learn. This country is fucked. And NO, “Thoughts and prayers” won’t do shit for victims and their families. I literally just want to cry; those poor kids and staff didn’t deserve to die in such a horrific manner.

  • bananasmoothie

    Why do transwomen talk over/interrupt women just like men do? Hmmmm….

  • lk

    The author of this article (PRIS CORBETT)…is this her first time writing for FC? I don’t think I’ve seen her name on here before.

    But I LOVE how blunt and straightforward her writing is in this article. And I really appreciate the author referring to Willoughby as he/him.

    “his sympathies lay not with the women who have been killed or their families, but with men at large who Willoughby apparently believes are being made to look bad through discussing these crimes as gendered.”

    One thing I have noticed that both MRA’s and TRA’s do is talk about the violence of people and the violence of women….they completely ignore the fact that most violent crimes are committed by biological males. I am not claiming that women do not commit acts of violence, but I think it is dangerous to act as though men and women are equally violent: they are not.

    • Meghan Murphy

      Yes, it is her first time writing for FC!

  • Well, no branch of feminism seeks “power for some rather than equality for all”. That, in fact, is the definition of patriarchy. So, #Timesup on male ignorance, maybe?

  • corvid

    Some people = men. 😉

  • Rich Garcia

    @disqus_BnhFUfseZX:disqus “It’s sad, if the trans movement could only recognize the futility of blaming women for the actions of homophobic men and take the fight directly to them.”

    This movement goes after women because women are the only ones who challenge their charade of femininity and “gendered brains”. If these people truly wanted to be left alone they would direct their energy towards preventing violence against them, which is still male-on-male violence I might add.

    It’s also about sexual access to girls and women. These men won’t get that coming after other men, because most of them are heterosexual. Besides, they know better than to intimidate us with their violence, which is why they prefer easier targets in women and children.

  • FierceMild

    Happens to me all the time. It bothers me because I think the upvoting is a way of being in silent-but-visible solidarity with another woman’s thoughts or experiences and I think that’s important and a weighty part of the impact of FC commenters on one another and on lurkers.

  • Meghan Murphy

    Me too!

  • lk

    I’ve read about cultures that have two-spirit, 3rd genders..I’ve read about indigenous cultures that recognize feminine men, masculine women and men who do women’s work.

    None of these cultures deny the existence of female biology, none of these cultures claim that men can literally become women.

    It is only in transworld that men can magically become women…that biological sex is a social construct.

  • Andrew Cole

    Willoughby changed identification in the span of a couple sentences. When asking whether s/he/them would be allowed into the women’s shelter, he identified as a woman; not a trans-woman, a woman. Then a short time later when refuting the crime statistics he tried to evade by saying that more women would commit crimes than the trans community which is tiny in comparison. Well, which is it? Are you a real woman or a trans-woman? And that ignores any of the politics that goes into making the distinction. Willoughby is willing to change identities on the fly in the most hypocritical way possible.